Anyone else find this interesting?

cmy330go
cmy330go Posts: 2,341
edited April 2024 in Clubhouse Archives
This is something I have been intruiged with for awhile. Has anyone else noticed that with all the advancements made in technology, that as far a A/V is concerned, we are still battling the original technology.

Take video displays for example. With all the new types (dlp, lcd, lcos, sxrd, dila, plasma) we still can't beat the picture quality of a crt.

Now in audio it is a bit more arguable. However I'm sure many would agree that Tube amplification makes for a more lifelike sound, and that Vinyl is still the best sounding format. Or simply put analog over digital.

I guess it just amazes me that with all the advancements in technology we are still competing against the likes of Thomas Edison.
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited December 2005
    I think you are right. Just because something is new and "fashionable" doesn't make it better. While CRT, vinyl and even CD may seem old-fashioned, especially in comparison to the likes of iPod and plasma screens, these "old guards" are just now reaching the pinnacle of their technological greatness.
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited December 2005
    cmy330go wrote:
    I guess it just amazes me that with all the advancements in technology we are still competing against the likes of Thomas Edison.
    I dunno... I've heard Edison Cylinder players and even my 60's Sears Silvertone SS record player kick the **** outta them...
    More later,
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited December 2005
    Analog > Digital
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  • Skynut
    Skynut Posts: 2,967
    edited December 2005
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    Just don't look right, how could it sound right?
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited December 2005
    Skynut wrote:
    101001101010011010101001010101010

    Just don't look right, how could it sound right?
    Thats cuz your third zero and one are reversed. I bet that would sound much better.... :)

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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited December 2005
    cmy330go wrote:
    Now in audio it is a bit more arguable. However I'm sure many would agree that Tube amplification makes for a more lifelike sound, and that Vinyl is still the best sounding format.


    Not me! Give me solid state and CD's all day long!
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    edited December 2005
    MacLeod wrote:
    Not me! Give me solid state and CD's all day long!

    Is this because it sounds better to you? Or do you just not like the upkeep of analog?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,772
    edited December 2005
    While I could see myself owning a Tube PREAMP in the future. Its the only piece I could find me owning in the future of that sort.

    Tube amps, etc just wont be for me. I need the grunt of Sand amps...

    As for records, etc... LOL - I will NEVER own a record player, EVER. Im to much of a clean freak to deal with that, PLUS I like remotes, fast forward and rewind, skip, etc... lol (Not to mention compact, rippable, burnable...etc)
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  • ledhed
    ledhed Posts: 1,088
    edited December 2005
    I do like the sound of Vinyl better but, it is not as convienient. Make me an affordable Vinyl cutter that I can plug into my computer and a record player in my car. Then I will be a true vinyl convert.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited December 2005
    "The more things change, the more they stay the same."

    Keep in mind that digital is still in its infancy. That's why we're seeing so much change, all the time; and not always for the better. Alot of trial & error still happening...
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited December 2005
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited December 2005
    No tubes here, never have liked the sound of them, to me they sound dull, less dynamic, and lack the clarity of good SS.

    And I definetly prefer the dynamics of a well recorded CD to vinyl, problem is, most CD's don't seem to be mastered/recorded all that well.
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    edited December 2005
    WilliamM2 wrote:
    And I definetly prefer the dynamics of a well recorded CD to vinyl, problem is, most CD's don't seem to be mastered/recorded all that well.

    You might find this article on dynamics interesting.

    http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/specsformats/LPvsCDformats.php

    :)
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited December 2005
    cmy330go wrote:
    Is this because it sounds better to you? Or do you just not like the upkeep of analog?


    While tubes are great and all, you can get the same performance out of solid state for less and itll be more durable.

    As for CD's I simply prefer their sound quality over any other format.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited December 2005
    Very interesting. But it was only a sample of 5 albums, I wonder what the results would have been had he picked 5 different albums. I also question running everything through a computer, and using software for the readings. I would rather see in room measurements.

    Maybe it is some other factor, distortion, or whatever, But I do prefer the sound of CD's.
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