Sub upgrade

DaveSal
DaveSal Posts: 15
edited December 2005 in Car Subwoofer Talk
I'm looking to upgrade my Polk GNX104 10" sub to something that will sound better and handle more power. I've got an Alpine MRP 350 amp, which gives me about 200/w into 4 ohms for the Polk sub. I'd like to uprade to something that will enable me to run the amp at 2 ohms, which would allow for the Alpine's full 350/w potential. So far, the best option I've found for my price range is the JL Audio 10w3v2.

Anyone know of a better option for less than $200?
Pioneer 880PRS
Polk C300.2
MB Quart PCE 216
Alpine MRP 350
Polk GNX 104
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  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited December 2005
    well, here is a polk mm2104 for a mere $120 + shipping, dual-4 coils, and should be able to handle that alpine... here is the 12 inch version, for $20 more...
    It's not good, very fundamentally simply not good. - geolemon

    "Its not good enough until we have real-time fearmongering. I want my fear mongered as it happens." - Shizelbs
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  • Altec88
    Altec88 Posts: 24
    edited December 2005
    Type R maybe? I'd would certainly be an upgrade, for under $200.

    There is also the option of an Elemental Designs Kv2
    10" Pioneer TS-255C, ported tuned to 38hz with 25in^2 port area.

    Run off Profile CA1200 (900w@4ohm)
    this would create a "sledge hammer" effect and a terrible localization of bass. lets say we downfire the sub... not only would it be localized, but the reflected bass waves would shoot right back at the cone and probably cancel out a lot of the sound... whereas the conical "normal" sub would allow these waves to bounce all around.
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  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited December 2005
    ah, the cursiest of curses! reccing eD here isn't the best idea :p... not that i've ever heard one, but you'll take flak just for mentioning the name...

    and i'd call the type-r more spl, and the momo more sq, if you had to choose to lean one way or the other...
    It's not good, very fundamentally simply not good. - geolemon

    "Its not good enough until we have real-time fearmongering. I want my fear mongered as it happens." - Shizelbs
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited December 2005
    ed is teh suck
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
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  • Altec88
    Altec88 Posts: 24
    edited December 2005
    exalted512 wrote:
    ed is teh suck
    -Cody

    Not this again :rolleyes:
    10" Pioneer TS-255C, ported tuned to 38hz with 25in^2 port area.

    Run off Profile CA1200 (900w@4ohm)
    this would create a "sledge hammer" effect and a terrible localization of bass. lets say we downfire the sub... not only would it be localized, but the reflected bass waves would shoot right back at the cone and probably cancel out a lot of the sound... whereas the conical "normal" sub would allow these waves to bounce all around.
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  • Altec88
    Altec88 Posts: 24
    edited December 2005
    neomagus00 wrote:
    ah, the cursiest of curses! reccing eD here isn't the best idea :p... not that i've ever heard one, but you'll take flak just for mentioning the name...

    and i'd call the type-r more spl, and the momo more sq, if you had to choose to lean one way or the other...

    The R has more than enough SQ for his needs.

    Any reason to stick with a 10"?

    Damn might as well get an eD Ov2 ($175 shipped) :cool:
    10" Pioneer TS-255C, ported tuned to 38hz with 25in^2 port area.

    Run off Profile CA1200 (900w@4ohm)
    this would create a "sledge hammer" effect and a terrible localization of bass. lets say we downfire the sub... not only would it be localized, but the reflected bass waves would shoot right back at the cone and probably cancel out a lot of the sound... whereas the conical "normal" sub would allow these waves to bounce all around.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited December 2005
    ummm, no. **** eD. **** their supporters. **** their owner. **** them. I hope they burn and **** die.
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
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  • Altec88
    Altec88 Posts: 24
    edited December 2005
    exalted512 wrote:
    ummm, no. **** eD. **** their supporters. **** their owner. **** them. I hope they burn and **** die.
    -Cody

    :D

    Another VERY good choice is an Image Dynamics IDQ. :cool:
    10" Pioneer TS-255C, ported tuned to 38hz with 25in^2 port area.

    Run off Profile CA1200 (900w@4ohm)
    this would create a "sledge hammer" effect and a terrible localization of bass. lets say we downfire the sub... not only would it be localized, but the reflected bass waves would shoot right back at the cone and probably cancel out a lot of the sound... whereas the conical "normal" sub would allow these waves to bounce all around.
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  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited December 2005
    all excellent options... have a listen to as many as you can and choose the one you like best...
    It's not good, very fundamentally simply not good. - geolemon

    "Its not good enough until we have real-time fearmongering. I want my fear mongered as it happens." - Shizelbs
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  • Altec88
    Altec88 Posts: 24
    edited December 2005
    Sound Splinter RL-i
    10" Pioneer TS-255C, ported tuned to 38hz with 25in^2 port area.

    Run off Profile CA1200 (900w@4ohm)
    this would create a "sledge hammer" effect and a terrible localization of bass. lets say we downfire the sub... not only would it be localized, but the reflected bass waves would shoot right back at the cone and probably cancel out a lot of the sound... whereas the conical "normal" sub would allow these waves to bounce all around.
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  • DaveSal
    DaveSal Posts: 15
    edited December 2005
    Thanks for all the help, guys. I'd love to get the MM2104, but I need a 2ohm DVC for compatability w/my amp (looks like the MOMO is a dual 4ohm). I'm mostly looking for SQ, though it'd be nice to take the SPL up a few notches as well. Would also like to stay w/a 10" -- I've tried 12s in the past and just prefer the tightness of a 10" spkr.

    Any opinions on the JL 10w3v2? Would the Apline Type R, or a different sub, sound better?
    Pioneer 880PRS
    Polk C300.2
    MB Quart PCE 216
    Alpine MRP 350
    Polk GNX 104
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  • Altec88
    Altec88 Posts: 24
    edited December 2005
    DaveSal wrote:
    I've tried 12s in the past and just prefer the tightness of a 10" spkr.

    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
    10" Pioneer TS-255C, ported tuned to 38hz with 25in^2 port area.

    Run off Profile CA1200 (900w@4ohm)
    this would create a "sledge hammer" effect and a terrible localization of bass. lets say we downfire the sub... not only would it be localized, but the reflected bass waves would shoot right back at the cone and probably cancel out a lot of the sound... whereas the conical "normal" sub would allow these waves to bounce all around.
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  • Altec88
    Altec88 Posts: 24
    edited December 2005
    You'll love the 12" IDQ

    More SQ, and it'll get louder. :)
    10" Pioneer TS-255C, ported tuned to 38hz with 25in^2 port area.

    Run off Profile CA1200 (900w@4ohm)
    this would create a "sledge hammer" effect and a terrible localization of bass. lets say we downfire the sub... not only would it be localized, but the reflected bass waves would shoot right back at the cone and probably cancel out a lot of the sound... whereas the conical "normal" sub would allow these waves to bounce all around.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited December 2005
    IDQ is an excellent sub, the w3...not so much
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited December 2005
    Altec88 wrote:
    Sound Splinter RL-i

    Alright now, back from Bolivia :) .


    Totally agree with this one :D . Can move a decent amount of air, and stay very clean doing it.


    Arc Audio's ARC Series subs are also a good bang for the buck. I read a good review on the 12" version. Here is a link to a review by Eric Holdaway, it is in pdf format http://www.arcaudio.com/arc-05/pdf/sub_reviewfi.pdf
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
    KnuKonceptz
    Second Skin
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited December 2005
    i heard the prototype version of those in a 15, sounded great, shouldve been louder with the power going to it and the box they were in though...IMO
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
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