Speaker suggestions, please.

ND13
ND13 Posts: 7,601
edited December 2005 in Speakers
Okay, I sold my truck yesterday, so I'm thinking about "MAYBE" getting a set of speakers to run with my ASL Wave 20 monoblock tube amps. I've been on the Gon looking at what they have in the classifieds. There are some Spendors, Sonus, Dynas, Totems, PDimes, etc, etc.....

Give me some suggestions for a pair of pre-owned reference speakers in the sub $1000 range that will be happy with a maximum of 20 tube watts. Bookshelfs or floorstanders will work. I want something that one doesn't see everyday.



Don't get me wrong, I'm very very happy with the Monitor 7As in that rig and they're not going anywhere. I just want to try something different in there. I'd like to try something in the 94db+ sensitivity range.

Thanks,
Noel
"SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited December 2005
    I would look at Magnepan MMG's, Epos 12.2, and the Totem Rainmakers. The Maggies might not meet your "don't see everyday" criteria. I like Epos speakers, and I have a friend with the Totem Rainmakers running on custom built tube gear and when positioned right they are mesmerizing!
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    edited December 2005
    A pair of RTA 11t's would be great on those tubes. :D
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited December 2005
    Some efficient Planar, I think Martin Logan has some on a money back trial, not sure about that though.

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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited December 2005
    Magnepan isn't an option.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,535
    edited December 2005
    Used Spendor S3/5 or S3/5SE. Easy to drive. Excellent midrange. You could sell them on easily if you don't like the sound. Or just use a pair for a while and sell them anyway just to try something different. Epos are good too, but their sound is quite different from Spendors. I'd suggest trying bookshelfs of some type and if you like something a lot from a different manufacturer, move up to a larger pair in the same family.
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited December 2005
    figured I'd throw Klipsch out there, I never heard them, but there suposed to be pretty sweet on tube gear, like the cornwall, lascala, or the klipschorn (might be over budget). I dont know from experience though, but If I were in your shoes, I would be curious to try it. people seem to love it to death or hate it with a passion.

    of course, the above would be of the used variety for budget reasons :)
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited December 2005
    I can't seem to find any specs on the Thiel CS 1.5s. Only thing I can find on them is that when new they listed for $2200
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited December 2005
    Noel,
    I guess you already know what I'd suggest:). Look into the Reference towers from Klipsch. Everything below the RF-7 and 5 could easily be found for <$1000. You can get a used pair of RF-3 (replaced by 35) for around $500-600 or even less sometimes. 98db/w/m. BlueMD owns a pair of 3's, I have 35's.

    Good luck on your hunt

    Maurice
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited December 2005
    Paradigm Reference Studio 20 v.2/v.3, or Sonus Concerto's used.
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited December 2005
    Forgot, might not be what you're looking for but the Polk RT series sounds fantastic on tubes. Have you decided what brand you're re-tubing the ASL with?
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited December 2005
    I've got a quad of Electro-Harmonix 6L6s, I just need to go pick them up. I've already put the Sovtek 5881s in. I want to try some KT66s next.
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited December 2005
    You need to go demo/listen to some stuff locally man. Don't just 'buy' off the gon' in haste, because something meets your specs / budget.

    Those Wave 20's won't handle the low impedance dips that most planar / stat speakers exhibit, they simply don't have the iron. You don't need 94 db either, find something different, something you like, and if it's 88db or better, you'll have plenty of juice.
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited December 2005
    I wasn't considering planars or stats to begin with. The only decent shop in town is Ovation and they are a Klipsch distributor and they used to sell PDime but I'm not too sure about that anymore. They probably carry Infinity or JBL or the like, too. I also can never get the time to go demo speakers, seeing that I'm at work for 60+ hours and 6 days a week. So I'll have to go by what I remember from past experience and what you guys know.
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    edited December 2005
    Energy RC-10. I'm still auditioning a pair of these on my tube integrated. I honestly think I like these better than my LSi9s. There is something about these that really draws me into the music. They are so crisp w/o being fatiguing. And the bass response for their size is insane. If you have a way to try them out I would heavily recommend it! Only around $500 retail.

    Here is a link to some detailed pics I took on Trey's "Inside the Loudspeaker" page.
    http://www.eandr.biz/ASISTLSEnergyRC10.html

    BTW the other finishes they have are beautiful. But they only had black when I got these.

    Enjoy the hunt!

    EDIT: I know these are a bit "everyday" but I do honestly feel that they are too good to ignore.
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited December 2005
    PMC:
    http://www.pmcloudspeaker.com

    Cain & cain:
    http://www.cain-cain.com/abby/
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited December 2005
    unc2701 wrote:
    PMC:
    http://www.pmcloudspeaker.com

    Cain & cain:
    http://www.cain-cain.com/abby/


    How much do the Abby's cost???
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited December 2005
    Put 'em on your SRS2s. My SDA 1Cs rock with the Wave 20s. I think each amp/speaker combo have different synergy/matchup points. My RT55s sound like **** on the Waves and they are one of my favorite speakers on my SS amps. Give it a go...........
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited December 2005
    Mine are blade/blade and I don't have that extra special IC like the one Darqueknight built with the jumper that goes to the negative speaker terminal from the bb jack.
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited December 2005
    ND13 wrote:
    Mine are blade/blade

    I wondered how early they were. Try them without the IC to see if the volume levels are adequate. That is how I ran my 1Cs for about a week and was surprised at the volume they gave. Then I got brave, now I fear no more. Mine are pin/blade though.
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited December 2005
    You can get Abby'sused under $1000... Might have to wait for awhile for them to show up on Audiogon.
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  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited December 2005
    According to Dynaudio's web site they have a dealer in Indy, I'm sure they'll have other speakers also...

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    6371 N. Guilford Ave.
    Indianapolis, IN 46220
    (317) 255-4434
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited December 2005
    tryrrthg wrote:
    According to Dynaudio's web site they have a dealer in Indy, I'm sure they'll have other speakers also...

    Audio Solutions
    6371 N. Guilford Ave.
    Indianapolis, IN 46220
    (317) 255-4434


    Thanks!!! :)
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    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
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  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited December 2005
    ND13 wrote:
    Thanks!!! :)
    No problem, I do what I can to spread the sickness. :eek:

    Check out Stereophile's web site they have a list of dealers in each state, the link below should take you to Indiana

    Indiana Link
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited December 2005
    Does anyone know anything about the Swan Loudpeaker Co.????
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited December 2005
    Are you talking about Hi-Vi????
    Gallo Ref 3.1 : Bryston 4b SST : Musical fidelity CD Pre : VPI HW-19
    Gallo Ref AV, Frankengallo Ref 3, LC60i : Bryston 9b SST : Meridian 565
    Jordan JX92s : MF X-T100 : Xray v8
    Backburner:Krell KAV-300i
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited December 2005
    Swans were an import by Mark Shifter from AV123 and some of the better value speakers around 5 years ago. Nice speakers.
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited December 2005
    Dennis Gardner wrote:
    Swans were an import by Mark Shifter from AV123 and some of the better value speakers around 5 years ago. Nice speakers.

    These look interesting. I hate these types of ads, though. It's hard to tell if the price is each or for the pair. The 4.1s are nice looking too and they ARE priced as each. Does anyone know how to get any other discounts or coupons for Newegg purchases??

    Edit- In the 4.1 spec page it says channels- single, for the 2.1s it says 2 channels, so I would have to think they are priced as a pair. Might just have to try them out for $299.


    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16836136111

    here's the 4.1s

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16836136112
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited December 2005
    You can get some JM Lab Elektra Bookshelves for <$1000 on the gon. Ya don't see those everyday and last time I listened to them, they sounded realy nice.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited December 2005
    Although it's been about 6 months since i demoed these... I still remember being impressed with the sound of these. Wharfedale EVO40 I liked the design with the tapered rear end of it. The sound was nice and open and airy.

    If you can Noel, seek out some place to audition these.. it might be difficult.. but worth a listen I think.

    read this review
    to compare three floorstanders in similar price range.
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