sub location

pastorcharles
pastorcharles Posts: 2
Should a subwoofer be mounted inside an entertainment center? Any suggestions where?
Chuck
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited November 2005
    Hi and welcome to the forums. Take a long rca patch cord and put the sub in the listening position. Play a familiar CD with good bass and walk around the room until the sub sounds the best. Put the sub in that position. It will usually be in a corner in the front of the room.
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  • ward91
    ward91 Posts: 338
    edited November 2005
    my sub sounds a bit bad in the corner, its at the end of my bed now (bed for me maby a sofa for you )
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  • labrat
    labrat Posts: 120
    edited November 2005
    I would be careful with locating a sub in an entertainment center. It is not uncommon to go to a lot of work to isolate components from vibration and it seems to me that puting the sub in the entertainment center is a big step backwards in that department. It might work, but you also might cause some of the other components to sound bad.

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  • Jim Wy
    Jim Wy Posts: 64
    edited November 2005
    aaharvel wrote:
    Hi and welcome to the forums. Take a long rca patch cord and put the sub in the listening position. Play a familiar CD with good bass and walk around the room until the sub sounds the best. Put the sub in that position. It will usually be in a corner in the front of the room.

    This thread is right up my alley :) . I'm kind of in the same boat with a sub (psw10) in my entertainment ctr. If you want to see it just search under "chainsaw" (don't ask, you'll have to see for yourself) and see the pics I posted a while ago...
    I also want to play around with it and move it around a bit to see if it sounds good anywhere else (99% for movies) and 'cause my unit is starting to get crowded in there. Two dvd players now, looking for a stereo rcvr., etc...

    So my question. what exactly is an "RCA patch cord??" I just want to make sure you're talking about what I think you are :confused::D
    Two rca connectors with a conductor consisting of ____________ (fill in blank) to use permanently instead of a $200 18' Monster Cable.

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  • John K.
    John K. Posts: 822
    edited November 2005
    "...a central copper wire of essentially any description and costing at the very most not more than this one ..."
  • BobMcG
    BobMcG Posts: 1,585
    edited November 2005
    Jim Wy wrote:
    So my question. what exactly is an "RCA patch cord??"Jim

    I believe Andrew was refering to the use of a simple, cheap RCA interconnect cable (like one of those gray Rat Shack jobbers) long enough to reach from your equipment rack to your listening position just for testing purposes. When you find the best position for the sub, use a higher quality shielded cable.

    Most subs can be hooked up via low level (RCA) or high level (speaker) ins and outs (and LFE in, also RCA connector). Andrew was talking about using low level.
  • Eric W
    Eric W Posts: 556
    edited November 2005
    We really do not recommend placing *any* sub that is designed for freestanding use inside of a cabinet or entertainment center or hole in the wall etc. Primary reason is the cabinet within a cabinet effect. You are likely to get a very uneven response, not to mention cabinet doors and shelves vibrating and the entertainment center itself contributing to resonances from the shelf material (such as wood, think of how a guitar makes sound). Not only that many of our subs are ported in the rear, so this would drastically change the way the sub sounds.
    However something that is designed to be used within another cabinet such as our CSW100 or CSW200 would be suitable.

    It ultimately depends on the room and the main speakers. Sometimes corner placement in certain rooms is best, as it will maximize the output of the sub. Generally I've found locating the sub somewhere along the front wall usually works the best, but the only way to find out is to experiment.

    As mentioned, you can sit the sub on your usual listening chair, play music and crawl around the room until you hear which position sounds best and then put your sub there.
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  • Jim Wy
    Jim Wy Posts: 64
    edited November 2005
    It ultimately depends on the room and the main speakers. Sometimes corner placement in certain rooms is best, as it will maximize the output of the sub. Generally I've found locating the sub somewhere along the front wall usually works the best, but the only way to find out is to experiment.

    That answers my question for me :rolleyes: . If Eric says the sub comes out of it's doghouse then out it comes :D Problem is that I'm relegated to pretty well one other spot if/when it gets relocated... 4' beside the main listening couch at a corner wall at 45* facing the open area. Can't do the left/right of the ent. ctr. thing... doors on both sides.

    OR... (don't laugh, I consider this a valid newbie question)

    can the sub be placed on the unit at a height of 66" and tilted 45* up to diffuse off the ceiling?? Every sub thread I go to says that if a sub is placed properly you can't tell where it comes from, it's just there.

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  • pastorcharles
    pastorcharles Posts: 2
    edited November 2005
    Okay Eric I thank you and the other posters. Now comes the hard part -- convincing the wife that the expensive new entertainment center is no place for what she calls "that big ugly grey thing on the floor."
    Charles
  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited November 2005
    Putting the "big ugly grey thing" in the "expensive new entertainment center" would ultimately damage the "expensive new entertainment center" due to vibrations etc... And if she is like most women, they want to set things on the "expensive new entertainment center" to make it look good, which of course would be damaged also. A sub can be put in unobtrusive locations in a room like a corner and even behind furniture. Anything but IN the "expensive new entertainment center".
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,507
    edited November 2005
    Stick it in a corner and dear wife can put things on it. Using some gummy stuff on the bases keeps the Snow Babies in place.
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  • Rivman
    Rivman Posts: 4
    edited December 2005
    Hi - NEW to this forum and just finished setting up a RM6750 compact 5.1 system.
    I don't mean to jack this thread, and probably should have made a new post - sorry !
    What are all the knobs and switches for on the back of the sub unit?
    Just a brief description - the manual doesn't really explain what they are there for. 'Thanks' for your time ! :confused:
    Been there and done it at least twice !