quick question

hellohello
hellohello Posts: 428
edited November 2005 in Car Audio & Electronics
was approached by a classmate asking what kind of 6.75 speakers i would reccomend, naturally db675s or the momos. he looks at the specs and says "only 50 watts rms?!?" i have a 600 watt amp. his old pioneer 50 ways were rated at a gazillion watts and im thinking, is that a thermal rating, or just a shot in the dark? how are the max wattages for the polks calculated? why do i bother talking to these people? lol so many questions :confused:
Picking ones nose signifies a strong sense of self discovery :)

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PP 6V6 with 12ax7 pre ~ 20 watts
15" Jensen MOD 8ohm ~ 97db SPL
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  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited October 2005
    it's not how big it is, it's how you use it:D... for polk, the RMS is the maximum continuous power that can be put through the speakers using a specified test tone, and the max rating is twice that... others' max powers are four times their rms, or as much as the speaker can take over a fraction of a second without destroying its own suspension (for the really flea-markety companies)...
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited October 2005
    neomagus00 wrote:
    it's not how big it is, it's how you use it:D...
    just keep telling yourself that
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  • hellohello
    hellohello Posts: 428
    edited October 2005
    yeah, the amp he was talking about was a visonik, looked cheap, plus it was fried... so that whole plan = out the window
    Picking ones nose signifies a strong sense of self discovery :)

    System in the works: ;)
    PP 6V6 with 12ax7 pre ~ 20 watts
    15" Jensen MOD 8ohm ~ 97db SPL
    DiMarzio HS3 and/or Tone Zone S
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited October 2005
    Max ratings are totally irellevant so tell your friend to ignore them.

    Also, running 600 watts to the front stage is just stupid. Why not make a motorcyle with 600 horsepower? However he's probably using the max rating of the amp so its more than likely a 250 watt amp.

    Tell him to get the DB's and set the gains properly and he'll be fine. Then tell him to pull his pants up!
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited October 2005
    MacLeod wrote:
    Max ratings are totally irellevant so dont tell your friend to ignore them.

    :confused:

    Is that what you meant to say?
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  • hellohello
    hellohello Posts: 428
    edited October 2005
    howd u know his pants were down, cause they werent... lol so quick to judge. I convinced him that the amp was crud and that the dbs were good, i gave him a demo with my db650s on stock deck power... :D
    Picking ones nose signifies a strong sense of self discovery :)

    System in the works: ;)
    PP 6V6 with 12ax7 pre ~ 20 watts
    15" Jensen MOD 8ohm ~ 97db SPL
    DiMarzio HS3 and/or Tone Zone S
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited October 2005
    Usually when somebody complains of the 50 watt rating on a speaker and wants to run 600 watts to the front stage, he usually has his pants around his knees, a minimum of 5 piercings in his face and his ballcap sideways. ;)
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited October 2005
    Hehe. So true, so true.
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited October 2005
    MacLeod wrote:
    Why not make a motorcyle with 600 horsepower?
    i see nothing wrong with this...
    It's not good, very fundamentally simply not good. - geolemon

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  • hellohello
    hellohello Posts: 428
    edited November 2005
    they do have a motorcycle with a bigblock v8
    Picking ones nose signifies a strong sense of self discovery :)

    System in the works: ;)
    PP 6V6 with 12ax7 pre ~ 20 watts
    15" Jensen MOD 8ohm ~ 97db SPL
    DiMarzio HS3 and/or Tone Zone S
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited November 2005
    I've seen a motorcycle with a pretty awesome V10!!

    :eek: :D
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
    In Use
    PS3, Yamaha CDR-HD1300, Plex, Amazon Fire TV Gen 2
    Pioneer Elite VSX-52, Parasound HCA-1000A
    Klipsch RF-82ii, RC-62ii, RS-42ii, RW-10d
    Epson 8700UB
    In Storage
    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
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    Pioneer Premier DEH-P860MP, Memphis 16-MCA3004, Boston Acoustic RC520
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  • Eric W
    Eric W Posts: 556
    edited November 2005
    MacLeod wrote:
    Also, running 600 watts to the front stage is just stupid. Why not make a motorcyle with 600 horsepower?

    Ever heard of the turbo Hyabusa? :D Oh yeah, i think he'll be hard pressed to find a component set that can handle 600 watts. If pure SPL is the goal, then using multiple sets of speakers in the front is the way to go.
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  • PoweredByDodge
    PoweredByDodge Posts: 4,185
    edited November 2005
    Dodge Tomahawk... 550 horsepower motorcycle. V10 Viper engine strapped between the chassis of a bike. Instead of headlights, it has twin throttle bodies in that spot.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited November 2005
    That is what I was referring to.
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
    In Use
    PS3, Yamaha CDR-HD1300, Plex, Amazon Fire TV Gen 2
    Pioneer Elite VSX-52, Parasound HCA-1000A
    Klipsch RF-82ii, RC-62ii, RS-42ii, RW-10d
    Epson 8700UB
    In Storage
    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
    Klipsch RF-35, RB-51ii
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    Pioneer Premier DEH-P860MP, Memphis 16-MCA3004, Boston Acoustic RC520
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,820
    edited November 2005
    Visonik is like a step up from Jensen. Not the old Jensen that was worth something but current Jensen which is like owned by Audiovox which is pep Boys bargain aisle material.

    The only good thing about Visonik is thier ads have scantily clad women all over them. That's usually a plus in my book, even if the "models" are trashy looking. They do have a nice shade of red on thier gear too. But, like they say, fast women and flashy gear doesn't...something...something....? Ok, if anyone actually said that I'll kick myself in the nuts.
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  • PoweredByDodge
    PoweredByDodge Posts: 4,185
    edited November 2005
    "Fast women and flashy gear doesn't go over well with the wife or the accountant" - Tony the Fish, 1983, in his review of "Fleshdance" - a take on the later to be made movie "Flashdance", only better.
    The Artist formerly known as PoweredByDodge
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