Which Towers Are The Best For Home Theater - RTi8's Or RTi10's

team_canada
team_canada Posts: 107
edited November 2005 in Speakers
The question is, which towers in the RTi Series are best for home theater. The RTi8's or the RTi10's.

Any thoughts??
POLKPIONEER SYSTEM

Receiver - Pioneer Elite VSX-56TXi
Amp - Pioneer Elite M-10X
DVD Player - Pioneer Elite DV-59AVi
Front Speakers - polkaudio RTi70's
Center Channel - polkaudio CS400i
Sub - polkaudio PSW202
Surround Speakers - polkaudio R15's (7.1 System)
Speaker Cable - Unity Monster Link Biwire
(Fronts & Center)

TOTAL SPEAKER UPGRADE COMING SOON!!
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited October 2005
    I don't think there is an answer to your question; I have the 8's with a good sub and cannot be happier; I know many people here prefer the 10's, and others the 12's. Best advice would be listen and decide, but you can't go wrong with any of those three.....
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited October 2005
    +1

    But I would say that if you're not going to have a sub, the 10s would be better. If you're going to have a sub, then get whichever you want...
  • landry_p2000
    landry_p2000 Posts: 1,313
    edited October 2005
    I had the 8's at first, and they were great. I got the 10's for the same price on an upgrade from Circuit City, and like them as well. If price is an issue, go the cheaper route, if not listen to them both to see what you like best and go from there. The 8's are excellent with a sub and so are the 10's. Some say the 10's are not very good in the mid range department, but even with my 85 watts per channel, the 10's do it for me on highs, mids, and lows. I like the 10's better IMO. Good luck on your choice.

    Landry
    Main Set-up: 55" 120 hz Samsung LN55B650, Onkyo TX-SR806, Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva XPA-2, PS3 Slim, Sony BDP-S560, Apple TV (160g), Panamax M5300-PM, Polk Audio CSi5, RTi10's, FXi3's, RTi4's, and SVS PB12 Plus

    Bedroom: Panasonic 50" S2 Plasma and Panasonic BD65 blu-ray player, Onkyo TX-SR707, Emotiva XPA-3, Emotiva UPA-2, KEF IQ7's, IQc, IQ8Ds, and SVS PB10-ISD
  • team_canada
    team_canada Posts: 107
    edited October 2005
    I will be using a sub. I have listened to both and like both. I use the RTi70 towers right now and enjoy them. I would think that they are comparable to the RTi8's.

    The sub I currently own is a Polk PSW10. I was thinking that if I went with the 8's then I would upgrade my sub. If I went with the 10's, I may not need to upgrade as the 10's have 2-7" subs and the 8's only have the two mids.

    Again, I use my system for 90% home theater.
    POLKPIONEER SYSTEM

    Receiver - Pioneer Elite VSX-56TXi
    Amp - Pioneer Elite M-10X
    DVD Player - Pioneer Elite DV-59AVi
    Front Speakers - polkaudio RTi70's
    Center Channel - polkaudio CS400i
    Sub - polkaudio PSW202
    Surround Speakers - polkaudio R15's (7.1 System)
    Speaker Cable - Unity Monster Link Biwire
    (Fronts & Center)

    TOTAL SPEAKER UPGRADE COMING SOON!!
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited October 2005
    For HT, assuming you're not giving up anything on the top end, I think I'd always go with more boom.
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    PS3, Yamaha CDR-HD1300, Plex, Amazon Fire TV Gen 2
    Pioneer Elite VSX-52, Parasound HCA-1000A
    Klipsch RF-82ii, RC-62ii, RS-42ii, RW-10d
    Epson 8700UB

    In Storage
    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
    Klipsch RF-35, RB-51ii

    [Car Audio]
    Pioneer Premier DEH-P860MP, Memphis 16-MCA3004, Boston Acoustic RC520
  • team_canada
    team_canada Posts: 107
    edited October 2005
    audiobliss wrote:
    For HT, assuming you're not giving up anything on the top end, I think I'd always go with more boom.

    Would a sub upgrade be needed with the 10's??
    POLKPIONEER SYSTEM

    Receiver - Pioneer Elite VSX-56TXi
    Amp - Pioneer Elite M-10X
    DVD Player - Pioneer Elite DV-59AVi
    Front Speakers - polkaudio RTi70's
    Center Channel - polkaudio CS400i
    Sub - polkaudio PSW202
    Surround Speakers - polkaudio R15's (7.1 System)
    Speaker Cable - Unity Monster Link Biwire
    (Fronts & Center)

    TOTAL SPEAKER UPGRADE COMING SOON!!
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited October 2005
    I was referring to your decision between the RTi8 and RTi10: assuming one's higher frequencies are not better than the other's (which seems to be a debated point), then for HT I'd get the one with the most bass - the RTi10.

    As for subs, Polk is not known for good subs. In keeping with that, the PSW10 only goes down to 40Hz (at -3db). I'm not sure where most of the bass in movies is, but you're missing a lot. So, I'd say yes; a sub upgrade should be in the works.
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
    In Use
    PS3, Yamaha CDR-HD1300, Plex, Amazon Fire TV Gen 2
    Pioneer Elite VSX-52, Parasound HCA-1000A
    Klipsch RF-82ii, RC-62ii, RS-42ii, RW-10d
    Epson 8700UB

    In Storage
    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
    Klipsch RF-35, RB-51ii

    [Car Audio]
    Pioneer Premier DEH-P860MP, Memphis 16-MCA3004, Boston Acoustic RC520
  • team_canada
    team_canada Posts: 107
    edited October 2005
    audiobliss wrote:
    I was referring to your decision between the RTi8 and RTi10: assuming one's higher frequencies are not better than the other's (which seems to be a debated point), then for HT I'd get the one with the most bass - the RTi10.

    As for subs, Polk is not known for good subs. In keeping with that, the PSW10 only goes down to 40Hz (at -3db). I'm not sure where most of the bass in movies is, but you're missing a lot. So, I'd say yes; a sub upgrade should be in the works.

    Thanks for the advice!!
    POLKPIONEER SYSTEM

    Receiver - Pioneer Elite VSX-56TXi
    Amp - Pioneer Elite M-10X
    DVD Player - Pioneer Elite DV-59AVi
    Front Speakers - polkaudio RTi70's
    Center Channel - polkaudio CS400i
    Sub - polkaudio PSW202
    Surround Speakers - polkaudio R15's (7.1 System)
    Speaker Cable - Unity Monster Link Biwire
    (Fronts & Center)

    TOTAL SPEAKER UPGRADE COMING SOON!!
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited October 2005
    No problem. As a side note - I wouldn't take my advice for gold, lol. But seeing as how no one's told me I'm stupid yet in this thread, I assume my advice was pretty sound.
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
    In Use
    PS3, Yamaha CDR-HD1300, Plex, Amazon Fire TV Gen 2
    Pioneer Elite VSX-52, Parasound HCA-1000A
    Klipsch RF-82ii, RC-62ii, RS-42ii, RW-10d
    Epson 8700UB

    In Storage
    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
    Klipsch RF-35, RB-51ii

    [Car Audio]
    Pioneer Premier DEH-P860MP, Memphis 16-MCA3004, Boston Acoustic RC520
  • WJE
    WJE Posts: 27
    edited October 2005
    Hopefully, your receiver has lots of crossover setting options. If it can get down to 60Hz or even 50Hz before the sub kicks in, you'll use more of the bass from your Polks. Buying RTi10s, just to cross them over at 80Hz seems like a big waste to me.
  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited October 2005
    WJE wrote:
    Hopefully, your receiver has lots of crossover setting options. If it can get down to 60Hz or even 50Hz before the sub kicks in, you'll use more of the bass from your Polks. Buying RTi10s, just to cross them over at 80Hz seems like a big waste to me.

    I agree with that, but I'd still cross the 8s @ 60, just blends better to my ears with towers.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,056
    edited November 2005
    I would think no matter what towers you get, you should still get a new sub, even a middle of the range sub would be a big improvement.
    I have the 8's paired with an energy sub. In my current set up this is more than I need. I have the sub turned down 3/4 of the way(neighbors).
  • GATOR3000
    GATOR3000 Posts: 355
    edited November 2005
    How big is your room? If the size is no bigger than 14'x16' you would be good with the Rti8's and your sub for now. Somewhere down the line upgrading your sub should be considered.
    Theatre System 5.1
    Sumsung HP-S5053 plasma
    Receiver Denon AVR 3806 Pre/Pro
    Parasound HCA 1500A amp (front L/R)
    Parasound HCA 1000A amp (centre)
    B & K AV5000 amp (bi-amp + surround)
    Dynaco ST70 tube amp (Herbie HAL-O9)
    polkaudio Lsi15 (Cherry) 2-channel
    polkaudio Rti8 Front (Cherry)
    polkaudio Csi5 Centre
    polkaudio Rti6 Surround
    polkaudio PSW1000 Subwoofer (Cherry)
    Original A8T CD
    Pioneer DV-275 DVD Player
    MONSTER CABLE MP-HTS3500MKII Powercentre
  • team_canada
    team_canada Posts: 107
    edited November 2005
    GATOR3000 wrote:
    How big is your room? If the size is no bigger than 14'x16' you would be good with the Rti8's and your sub for now. Somewhere down the line upgrading your sub should be considered.

    I have a medium size room, 13'x18' approximately.
    POLKPIONEER SYSTEM

    Receiver - Pioneer Elite VSX-56TXi
    Amp - Pioneer Elite M-10X
    DVD Player - Pioneer Elite DV-59AVi
    Front Speakers - polkaudio RTi70's
    Center Channel - polkaudio CS400i
    Sub - polkaudio PSW202
    Surround Speakers - polkaudio R15's (7.1 System)
    Speaker Cable - Unity Monster Link Biwire
    (Fronts & Center)

    TOTAL SPEAKER UPGRADE COMING SOON!!
  • GATOR3000
    GATOR3000 Posts: 355
    edited November 2005
    My room is 13’x17’ and the Rti8’s are just fine, but my Sony receiver is not doing them any justice for now. I ordered new Denon AVR3806 receiver, which should be here soon and make my Rti8’s sing.

    What receiver you have now or going to be using with your 8’s or 10’s when you decide to get them?
    Theatre System 5.1
    Sumsung HP-S5053 plasma
    Receiver Denon AVR 3806 Pre/Pro
    Parasound HCA 1500A amp (front L/R)
    Parasound HCA 1000A amp (centre)
    B & K AV5000 amp (bi-amp + surround)
    Dynaco ST70 tube amp (Herbie HAL-O9)
    polkaudio Lsi15 (Cherry) 2-channel
    polkaudio Rti8 Front (Cherry)
    polkaudio Csi5 Centre
    polkaudio Rti6 Surround
    polkaudio PSW1000 Subwoofer (Cherry)
    Original A8T CD
    Pioneer DV-275 DVD Player
    MONSTER CABLE MP-HTS3500MKII Powercentre
  • team_canada
    team_canada Posts: 107
    edited November 2005
    GATOR3000 wrote:
    My room is 13’x17’ and the Rti8’s are just fine, but my Sony receiver is not doing them any justice for now. I ordered new Denon AVR3806 receiver, which should be here soon and make my Rti8’s sing.

    What receiver you have now or going to be using with your 8’s or 10’s when you decide to get them?

    I will be using a Pioneer Elite 56TXi receiver along with a Pioneer M-10X two channel amp. I want to bi-amp either the 8's or 10's and use the amp to power my surrounds.
    POLKPIONEER SYSTEM

    Receiver - Pioneer Elite VSX-56TXi
    Amp - Pioneer Elite M-10X
    DVD Player - Pioneer Elite DV-59AVi
    Front Speakers - polkaudio RTi70's
    Center Channel - polkaudio CS400i
    Sub - polkaudio PSW202
    Surround Speakers - polkaudio R15's (7.1 System)
    Speaker Cable - Unity Monster Link Biwire
    (Fronts & Center)

    TOTAL SPEAKER UPGRADE COMING SOON!!
  • GATOR3000
    GATOR3000 Posts: 355
    edited November 2005
    Your Pioneer Elite with 110W x7 and Rti8’s up front will sound cool. Go for the Rti8’s and save your $$ for a nice SVS sub. With good sub you don’t need Rti10’s.

    I’m upgrading to Denon 3806 and my next upgrade will be SVS sub and front separates.
    Theatre System 5.1
    Sumsung HP-S5053 plasma
    Receiver Denon AVR 3806 Pre/Pro
    Parasound HCA 1500A amp (front L/R)
    Parasound HCA 1000A amp (centre)
    B & K AV5000 amp (bi-amp + surround)
    Dynaco ST70 tube amp (Herbie HAL-O9)
    polkaudio Lsi15 (Cherry) 2-channel
    polkaudio Rti8 Front (Cherry)
    polkaudio Csi5 Centre
    polkaudio Rti6 Surround
    polkaudio PSW1000 Subwoofer (Cherry)
    Original A8T CD
    Pioneer DV-275 DVD Player
    MONSTER CABLE MP-HTS3500MKII Powercentre
  • team_canada
    team_canada Posts: 107
    edited November 2005
    GATOR3000 wrote:
    Your Pioneer Elite with 110W x7 and Rti8’s up front will sound cool. Go for the Rti8’s and save your $$ for a nice SVS sub. With good sub you don’t need Rti10’s.

    I’m upgrading to Denon 3806 and my next upgrade will be SVS sub and front separates.

    It sounds like you have an excellent set-up as well. I thought that if I go with the 10's then I would not have to spend as much on a sub as the 10's have the two 7" woofers, more lower end than the 8's. I have the RTi70's right now which I would expect are very similar to the 8's. I do want to step up a level for my front's but like you said, do I just save with the 8's an buy an much better sub. The other thing is, the 10's often go on sale for the same price as the 8's.

    You are abviously a Denon fan, did you compare the Denons and the Elites??
    POLKPIONEER SYSTEM

    Receiver - Pioneer Elite VSX-56TXi
    Amp - Pioneer Elite M-10X
    DVD Player - Pioneer Elite DV-59AVi
    Front Speakers - polkaudio RTi70's
    Center Channel - polkaudio CS400i
    Sub - polkaudio PSW202
    Surround Speakers - polkaudio R15's (7.1 System)
    Speaker Cable - Unity Monster Link Biwire
    (Fronts & Center)

    TOTAL SPEAKER UPGRADE COMING SOON!!
  • GATOR3000
    GATOR3000 Posts: 355
    edited November 2005
    No I didn’t compare Denon with Elite. Getting a good deal on 3806 so I’m taking it.

    I know what you mean by leaning towards the 10’s. If you get the 10’s for the same price as 8’s go for it. IMO, if you watch movies you will need a nice sub to get all sound effect benefits from DVD’s.
    Theatre System 5.1
    Sumsung HP-S5053 plasma
    Receiver Denon AVR 3806 Pre/Pro
    Parasound HCA 1500A amp (front L/R)
    Parasound HCA 1000A amp (centre)
    B & K AV5000 amp (bi-amp + surround)
    Dynaco ST70 tube amp (Herbie HAL-O9)
    polkaudio Lsi15 (Cherry) 2-channel
    polkaudio Rti8 Front (Cherry)
    polkaudio Csi5 Centre
    polkaudio Rti6 Surround
    polkaudio PSW1000 Subwoofer (Cherry)
    Original A8T CD
    Pioneer DV-275 DVD Player
    MONSTER CABLE MP-HTS3500MKII Powercentre
  • team_canada
    team_canada Posts: 107
    edited November 2005
    GATOR3000 wrote:
    No I didn’t compare Denon with Elite. Getting a good deal on 3806 so I’m taking it.

    I know what you mean by leaning towards the 10’s. If you get the 10’s for the same price as 8’s go for it. IMO, if you watch movies you will need a nice sub to get all sound effect benefits from DVD’s.

    I agree on the sub. I use my system for 90% HT. I listened to the Denon's an found them a bit bright compared to the Elites. The Elites are warmer which is what I prefer. Denon would have been my second choice but like you, I got a great deal on the Elite, could not turn it down...

    The 8's are definately brighter than the 10's. I find the 10's have a warmer sound (best description I could come up with). There are a few claims on this site that the 10's mids are not there. Right now, my RTi70's have two mids and a tweeter. I figure that if the 10's have one tweeter, one mid and two woofers, the sound stage should be larger and the mids still present. For HT they should be perfect!!
    POLKPIONEER SYSTEM

    Receiver - Pioneer Elite VSX-56TXi
    Amp - Pioneer Elite M-10X
    DVD Player - Pioneer Elite DV-59AVi
    Front Speakers - polkaudio RTi70's
    Center Channel - polkaudio CS400i
    Sub - polkaudio PSW202
    Surround Speakers - polkaudio R15's (7.1 System)
    Speaker Cable - Unity Monster Link Biwire
    (Fronts & Center)

    TOTAL SPEAKER UPGRADE COMING SOON!!
  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,056
    edited November 2005
    the 10's will not give you the bass you want , a good sub will !!
  • team_canada
    team_canada Posts: 107
    edited November 2005
    Willow wrote:
    the 10's will not give you the bass you want , a good sub will !!

    I agree 100%. Another thing I thought of was, if I set my speakers to small so all the low frequency sound go's to the sub, the woofers on the 10's would be useless for movies, am I correct??
    POLKPIONEER SYSTEM

    Receiver - Pioneer Elite VSX-56TXi
    Amp - Pioneer Elite M-10X
    DVD Player - Pioneer Elite DV-59AVi
    Front Speakers - polkaudio RTi70's
    Center Channel - polkaudio CS400i
    Sub - polkaudio PSW202
    Surround Speakers - polkaudio R15's (7.1 System)
    Speaker Cable - Unity Monster Link Biwire
    (Fronts & Center)

    TOTAL SPEAKER UPGRADE COMING SOON!!
  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,056
    edited November 2005
    Not useless but less effective. By setting them to large you are asking you receiver to push lots. Small would have the a good reserve of juice for the mids and highs. If you wanted the best of both worlds then get the 10s and a good sub. As mentioned with my 8s and a good sub, I couldn't be happier well I could, but that's part of upgrading.