upgrading a velodyne cht-8 to svs?

sickicw
sickicw Posts: 456
edited October 2005 in Subwoofer Hookup & Bass Management
I just hooked up my cht-8 sub to my 2 weeks old lsi9s and lsi center, and i have to say, it seems like there is something lacking in the bass sound. I bought a BFD1124 eq and set it up last night. I added 6 or so filters to get the response pretty flat, and that helped pretty much. There is still, however, something lacking. To make it sound the best, i have to turn the sub down (way below what my pre amp's auto set up sets it at). At a low volume, i am able to hear the bass drum kicking pretty good, but cant hear too many bass notes from other instruments. I havent demoed it out too much with any movies. It does sound alright though when i watch tv, in particular mtv videos and adult swim. Anyhoo, does anyone have any ideas if a sub upgrade to svs sub (i hear good reviews about em, thinking mabee 2531PCPlus) would really be that big of a difference? BTW, i watch tv and movies 50% of the time and music 50% and im not too big of a fan of "loud" bass. Just enought to bring the music-soundtrack out.
Speakers: LSi9 x 2, LSic, LSiFX x 2, Velodyne HGS-15
Amps & Power: Rockford Fosgate T8004 x 3, Cascade Audio APS-55 power supplies x 5, and 1 farad capacitor.
Electronics: Denon 3806, Toshiba HD-A1, & Sony KDL46XBR2
Accessories: Anti-IC interconnects, 8 Mondo Traps from Realtraps, and Salamander furniture.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,646
    edited October 2005
    The CHT 8 would be a **** in a waterfall in comparison. Would never have to upgrade. Very tight, accurate bass...

    You can ALWAYS turn it down... but sometimes you CANT turn it up.
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  • PolknPepsi
    PolknPepsi Posts: 781
    edited October 2005
    I would venture a guess the smallest svs would eat that velodyne for breakfast. :)
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited October 2005
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote:
    The CHT 8 would be a **** in a waterfall in comparison.

    so true. cht8 to an SVS? Now THAT'S an upgrade!
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited October 2005
    i stepped up to my svs from a twelve inch sony sub. the sony wasn't bad for only $250, but i knew i was missing out on the lowest of lows. i didn't care too much about spl's, but did care about the bottom end. with the svs, i've obtained ample amounts of both! :D

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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited October 2005
    I have the 25-31 cs+ - same as the one you are looking at but unpowered. (I have a large amp that I run it with giving it the same power as the PC plus.) I upgraded from a Polk PSW-350 10" and an MTX 10" sub.

    I also ended up purchasing a BFD 1124 to tame some room issues that I had. The difference is staggering. I use mine for 90% movies but it is really just incredible. Music sounds very good as well.

    Mine is "tuned" to 20hz and is the most amazing thing in my home theater. You can read my review of it when I first purchased it here.

    very highly recommended.

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • TrappedUnder Ice
    TrappedUnder Ice Posts: 975
    edited October 2005
    I have a Velodyne CHt-8 at home myself...I bought it cheap as an "open box" item and it does an OK job...for what it is. Sounds like your ready for something better then what you have...
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited October 2005
    I don't know how badly you get bitten by the upgrade bug, but as much as I like my 25-31cs plus - I have really been itching to get a cs-ultra soon. If I would have started with the ultra, I don't know if I would have had this problem.

    That being said - I still think the 25-31+ is an awesome sub, I just cant help thinking "what if"....

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,018
    edited October 2005
    When I bought the start of my system, I looked at upgrading from the 202 to a velo. I am glad I did not. I bought an energy sub, not svs by any means but it kicks the 202 and the velos I listened to. You won't go wrong with upgrading your sub. For me it was one of the most noticable upgrades.
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  • sickicw
    sickicw Posts: 456
    edited October 2005
    yea, the only issue i have is that i only keep the sub at pretty low levels. I am only interested in a "good sound" (clean, tight, and most important mixes in with the rest of my system without standing out) at low volume levels. Not a big fan of wall rattling bass. Its good for dynamic parts of movies, but if that happens durring music, it kinda takes away from the song. I really dont have much expericance with subs, and when i demo them in showrooms, i'm never that impresses (probably because they aren't EQed correctly and are too loud). So i was wondering if the 2531PCPlus would be overkill? After expementing with my main speakers, i found that the more power i give them the better they sound at low volume levels. I would think the same would apply to a sub. Oh yea i am also looking at the Velodyne SPL-800R but i hear these things put out more distortion than the sv subs. also they are a bit more expensive.
    Speakers: LSi9 x 2, LSic, LSiFX x 2, Velodyne HGS-15
    Amps & Power: Rockford Fosgate T8004 x 3, Cascade Audio APS-55 power supplies x 5, and 1 farad capacitor.
    Electronics: Denon 3806, Toshiba HD-A1, & Sony KDL46XBR2
    Accessories: Anti-IC interconnects, 8 Mondo Traps from Realtraps, and Salamander furniture.
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited October 2005
    where do you live? Maybe someone lives close to you that could give you an SVS demo? (if you are anywhere near central Illinois, I would be glad to...:) )

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • sickicw
    sickicw Posts: 456
    edited October 2005
    I live in fort worth, tx. I guess not matter what i orde, if i dont like it i guess i can always send it back.
    Speakers: LSi9 x 2, LSic, LSiFX x 2, Velodyne HGS-15
    Amps & Power: Rockford Fosgate T8004 x 3, Cascade Audio APS-55 power supplies x 5, and 1 farad capacitor.
    Electronics: Denon 3806, Toshiba HD-A1, & Sony KDL46XBR2
    Accessories: Anti-IC interconnects, 8 Mondo Traps from Realtraps, and Salamander furniture.
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  • PolknPepsi
    PolknPepsi Posts: 781
    edited October 2005
    ..........deleted by me......forgot to read other post. :(
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