I know Micah will probably rail me for this one but it's "fanboy" time!!!

Jstas

A slip of the lips by Kirsten Dunst reveals Spiderman 3 villans!


During an interview this weekend promoting Elizabethtown, Kirsten Dunst confirmed rumors to Zap2it that Thomas Haden Church will play Sandman and Topher Grace is Venom in director Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 3, opening in theaters on May 4, 2007.

"We have really great people though as the villains in this film, Thomas Haden Church and Topher Grace -- Venom and Sandman," said Dunst, who plays Mary Jane Watson in the Spidey films.

"Maybe I wasn't supposed to say that," she added before reversing her claim. "It's the other way around. You're right," she conceded to a journalist.

Dunst has yet to receive a script for the third film that will begin shooting in January. "But I know the general story. There's a lot that they're trying to fit into this one."



Granted I can't see Topher Grace (think "That 70's Show"'s Eric Foreman) as a villan but if Thomas Haden Church (credits include Lowell on the TV show Wings and a supporting actor bit in Sideways) is going to be Venom, this could be interesting. I was rather disheartened by the Doc Oc choice in Spiderman 2 'cause I thought Elton John had the Doc Oc look nailed down pat but it worked out well. So maybe this will work out well too. Anyway, it's not supposed to be out intil May '07 so there is plenty of time to anticipate this movie.

Then again, I can't wait until Hulk 2 comes out!

jdhdiggs

I knew of Thomas Haden Church since he got all of the recognition from Sideways. First I heard of Topher. He's actually not bad in some of his non-70's show stuff. About as believable as Tobey being spiderman.

Hulk 2? Dear lord, why did they make a sequel to that train wreck... Maybe they'll lose some of the CGI....

Nice update, FANBOY!!!

Micah Cohen

Whatever, man.

You want to see the best comic-book-type movie ever made (aside from SUPERMAN)? Rent Sam Raimi's DARKMAN. It's everything BATMAN, HULK, DAREDEVIL, SPIDERMAN etc, should have been: fun, short, violent, and innovative - shot like a real comic book (much more effectively than even SIN CITY). (Plus, you'll be amazed at how much Raimi stole from himself when he went on to make SPIDERMAN.)

And I thought that the best part of SPIDERMAN 2 was (easily) Alfred Molina as Dr Oc.

Whatever, man.

MC

Tomasz

I know I shouldn't do this but I will agree with Micah that DARMAN was a good movie, all credit goes to Liam Neeson. Electra, Daredevil and Spiderman 2 (I know I'm the only one) all sucked. Hulk was ok, i mean barely watchable, but I don't know how you can not like Batman, the first one, I mean Keaton was awesome. There those are my 2 cents.

Now here comes the berating.

AsSiMiLaTeD

Darkman ?!?! Are you freakin' kidding me?!?!

That movie was awful. It's in my collection because of the Elfman score (I own all the movies he's scored, yes even Pee Wee), but it hurts every time I watch it...

Hey, if you saw Elektra, that's your own fault Same thing with The Hulk.

Daredevil was ok, but had really good sound. Spiderman 2 was okay, but not great.

Putting down Batman is just blasphemy and I won't have any part of that conversation.

Micah Cohen

The original BATMAN film worked for only eight whole minutes. And Michael Keaton was a very good, very conflicted Bruce Wayne. (I have not yet seen the new BATMAN thing, so I can't compare the two.) Otherwise, BATMAN by Tim Burton sucked eggs.

HULK worked for the design, it was well done, and for the few moments of Nick Nolte being nuts and for my baby Jennifer Connelly. (How come she hasn't called me recently? Damn, maybe she lost my number.)

DAREDEVIL, which did not work at all, was watchable only for Jennifer Garner, who disapears in the middle, rendering it useless. And ELEKTRA was just a total waste of 90 minutes DESPITE Jennifer Garner.

SPIDERMAN and its sequel are just big budget productions of DARKMAN. I'm telling you. Watch it again. It's short, sharp, well directed (Raimi at his EVIL DEAD best), well acted, and filled with deviously evil stuff. Darkman is a KILLER. He kills people. No fooling around. Of course, it's a comic-book-y movie about a fake superhero (there's no "Darkman" comic), but it's the best comic book movie out there.

"I'm everyone. I'm no one. I'm Darkman!"

That's **** COOL, man. Cooler than anything in any of the other superhero movies.

MC

Micah Cohen

Hey, the original BLADE film is a better comic book movie than any other comic book movie. BLADE is what BATMAN should have been. Whaddaya think a'them apples?

MC

Jstas

Hey, I can give credit where credit is due and Darkman was very well done. I just never was fond of the Darkman story so it's not real high on my list.

As far as teh other movies, I thought that Hulk was cool! I liked teh way it was done, kinda of a 60's super-hero TV show deal with comic book frames instead of spinning bat symbols. Then again, I have always been a HUGE Incredible Hulk fan so seeing a movie or show of any kind that doesn't have Lou Ferigno covered in soylent green and running around gritting his teeth is a real treat! Besides, from what I have been seeing and hearing, Hulk 2 is supposed to be much better. Hulk had a fairly low budget and since it blew away the box office on opening weekend, thier budget for 2 almost doubled.

I like the Spiderman movies. They are alot of fun to watch and since I read all the original Spiderman series, it's fun to see it in live action. And yeah, Tobey Maguire isn't necessarily a stud but he has the perfect persona for Peter Parker and I think it's a great fit. I also didn't say I hated Alfred Molina as Doc Oc. He played the part incredibly well and nailed the whole Doc Oc persona perfectly. I liked Willam DaFoe as The Green Goblin too. He hit the character perfectly too. He had the flamboyant intelliigence and wealth masking the brooding insanity and did it so well it was scary. Kinda like I'm expecting to see an episode of MTV cribs showing Willam DaFoe's house and opening a closet to the Green Goblin costume.

Now Batman...that is a mess. The first one was spectacular! Keaton was a different Batman/Bruce Wayne than what popular culture was used to. He was also shown as the vigilante that he was, outside the police and not in cahoots with them. For those that never read the comic books, they only know the Batman from the TV shows and cartoons. On top of that, has there ever been a better Joker than Jack Nicholson? Keaton set the bar for Batman and none have bested him yet. Consequently, each consecutive Batman sequel has suffered from a leading actor that was not up to the task along with a plethora of increasingly cheesey supporting actors. The story lines of each sequel where once dark, brooding and interesting like the comic books but were watered down to fit into a pathetically small time allotment and jazzed up with special effects to wow the audience rather than capture thier imaginantions and engross them in the film. So yeah, two thumbs up for the original Batman, thumbs down for the sequels.


Daredevil and Elektra, I'll pass on commenting on those two films. However, I think Ben Affleck was a good choice for Daredevil, I just felt the movie was poorly done and teh screenplay had no substance. It glazed over the story and focused on special effects. Elektra, lets just say it never happened.

I still haven't seen Sin City and have no desire to.


Speaking of super-hero flick train wrecks, Catwoman anyone?

Jstas

Micah Cohen wrote:

Hey, the original BLADE film is a better comic book movie than any other comic book movie. BLADE is what BATMAN should have been. Whaddaya think a'them apples?

MC

Actually, I liked Spawn better than Blade.

Micah Cohen

Ben Affleck was a good choice

Those words don't work well in a sentence together. You must have meant something else.

Catwoman anyone?

HAHAHAHAHA! I am tempted to netflix this bomb. Should I?

MC

Micah Cohen

SPAWN. Good call. Interesting. But it really isn't as good as BLADE. It doesn't have the staying power. BLADE is a very well done film. (Till the last half hour, that is, then it flops over. But the character is fantastic.)

MC

Jstas

Micah Cohen wrote:

Those words don't work well in a sentence together. You must have meant something else.

I gotta disagree there. I've seen alot of stuff with Ben Affleck in it, mainly because my wife wants do him like there is no tomorrow. I have to say that his acting abilities are better than what has been showed in the mainstream. He has a bunch of lesser known films that show he actually has some depth to his acting ability. Oscar Winner? Maybe. Life Time Achievement Award recipient? Maybe when he dies and all the old women who were teenagers when the Kevin Smith movies and Good Will Hunting came out vote him in, yeah, but not on his own merits. He's a good actor, not a great actor and he has a limelight now because the women folk find him dreamy.

Micah Cohen wrote:

HAHAHAHAHA! I am tempted to netflix this bomb. Should I?

MC

If Halle Berry was nekkid, yes, otherwise, unless you get a free rental, I wouldn't bother. Then again, even if it was free, you'd still be getting ripped off. However, if you are looking for a weekend cheese fest, this should be tops on the list. Aside from that, an hour and a half or so of Halle Berry in skin tight patent leather and vinyl is not hard on the eyes in any respect.

aaharvel

The only superhero movies that are worth their salt are Donner's Superman and HIS version of II. Everything else is BK paddies posing as Filet Migon.

Jstas

Micah Cohen wrote:

SPAWN. Good call. Interesting. But it really isn't as good as BLADE. It doesn't have the staying power. BLADE is a very well done film. (Till the last half hour, that is, then it flops over. But the character is fantastic.)

MC

Spawn doesn't have staying power because it's a story that people will not easily stomach. The whole character and ideal of teh "hero" is based on vengance and his enemies are throughly disgusting. Granted, the whole reason Spawn came back from the dead was to see his wife but he was tricked by Malebolgia and it just pissed him all off and he went around hacking people to bits. The story is alot more complicated than that but you get the idea. It is far from your typical superhero movie and while Blade is a bad **** film and the story is more violent and over-the-top than Spawn, it's the whole atmosphere of Spawn that puts it above Blade in the dark, bad-**** movies. Spawn is a pissed off movie and makes no bones about it. John Leguizamo as Clown/Violator, well, when I first saw the trailer, I didn't even know it was him until I saw the credits. He did an excellent job.

TroyD

Ben Affleck is a no talent **** clown.

BDT

Micah Cohen

The only superhero movies that are worth their salt are

I think it's safe to assume that we all can agree on two things in this thread:

1. Donner's SUPERMAN is the best superhero movie yet made.
2. Ben Affleck is a no talent **** clown.

Does Halle Berry get naked in the CATWOMAN thing? Naked and etc, like in the unrated MONSTER'S BALL?

MC

PolkThug

Micah Cohen wrote:

Does Halle Berry get naked in the CATWOMAN thing? Naked and etc, like in the unrated MONSTER'S BALL?

MC

You could cut in her nekkid scenes from Swordfish.

Jstas

No, Helle Berry is not nekkid in Catwoman but like I said, there are many scenes laden with patent leather and black vinyl, skin-tight suits which can be worth it. Especially if you have a fetish fetish?

Tomasz

I wouldn't waste a slot in Netflix for Catwoman, I saw some of it when I was channel surfing and it was horrible. Besides you told me you were going to rent Layer Cake (which is good), and also get Brotherhood of War (which has been playing on HBO lately I think). Getting back to the topic at hand.

Blade was good, agree with that. Didn't much care for Spawn maybe because it was lower budget. I would also recommend Sin City even though that technically wasn't a comic book.

Oh yeah Ben Assclown suck at acting and probably at life, still can't believe he got Jeniffer Garner

Micah Cohen

Don't recommend SIN CITY. Don't start that again. See that thread, please. SIN CITY sucked.

MC

aaharvel

I like pink very much Lois. :cool:

Micah Cohen

How anyone could ever even modestly 'like' the two Spiderman movies blow my damned mind.

Do you mean that the SPIDERMEN are worth more than a modest "like," or that the SPIDERMEN sucked hard?

I personally think they were fine films. Well directed, well acted, accomplishing what they basically set out to do, which was to follow the original comic story in an inventive way.

Were they really "great films" a la Donner's superlative SUPERMAN? No. They were weak in many areas. But they did the job better than most other superhero movies, and could be said to be among the best of the bunch.

You know what makes it all worth while? The upside down kiss scene in SPIDERMAN. That's amazingly classic; a truly great screen kiss moment.

So, I "modestly like" the SPIDERMEN. You?

MC

Micah Cohen

I buy that. And I appreciate your rant. I can't offer anything more, because I can't figure out who I would have cast to play the part; probably some "unknown," you know?

I could **** about the chick, whatever her name is, Dunst. She's bubbly and cute, and she wears a wet t-shirt like a real star, but her teeth are like little chicklets, and she don't look like the Mary Jane in the comic book... She doesn't get my blood going like Mary Jane should.

Bad casting. Oh well.

MC

Billm57

Micah Cohen wrote:

SPAWN. Good call. Interesting. But it really isn't as good as BLADE. It doesn't have the staying power. BLADE is a very well done film. (Till the last half hour, that is, then it flops over. But the character is fantastic.)

MC

Blade rocked..Blade II sucked

MacLeod

I thought both Spiderman movies were very good. Ive been a huge Spiderman fan since I was 8 years old and thought these did it justice.

I had no problem with Maguire. He's a little short but Peter Parker is supposed to be a nerd and boy Toby sure fits the bill.

I dont like Kirsten Dunce tho. Shes not hot by any stretch of the imagination. MJ is supposed to be smokin' hot, Dunce is not.

I extremely happy theyre going to put Venom in the third movie although he popped up after Parker had the symbiot suit for a long time anad after it messed with him and he trashed it then the other guy found it and became Venom so Im afraid theyre going to either rush that part or skip it outright.

dholmes

Getting back to Spidy 3, I thought that the Green Goblins son was going to be the villian (Hob Goblin), remmeber how 2 ended. Also whats wrong with Sin City? I loved it!!