Sub for me system!

audiobliss
audiobliss Posts: 12,518
edited October 2005 in Car Subwoofer Talk
When I finally get an amp in my car (which actually appears like it'll be pretty soon *crosses fingers*), I'll want an amp and sub amp. Due to the same space limitations imposed on my main amp, I'll be going with a Memphis MClass amp, probably the 16-MCD500. For what sub I'm going to use, I really don't know.

I do know I'm going with a sealed enclosure and that I only want a single driver. I've been thinking it'll be a 10". I was originally thinking an 8", but I've decided a 10" would go lower and still be musical. Will a 12" also be as musical? Would it be worth the extra expense?

Now, for brands. If I buy it from the store I'm dealing with, they only carry JL Audio, Memphis, and Alpine. So, which one should I go with? If memory serves me correctly, I can get the 10w1v2 for $250 in a small sealed box. Is that pretty good? I don't know about Alpine's stuff, but what from them would be worth looking at? And what about Memphis; I know nothing about their subs.

I *might* be able to buy the sub elsewhere if it's a pretty good deal and have him still install the sub amp and all. Not sure on that one.

So, what are y'all's thoughts and recommendations on a small, musical sub that I can buy locally? Preferably of the three brands I mentioned, but I'll also consider advice about other brands.

Thanks!!
audiobliss
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited September 2005
    Oh, and I'll need much more help on this subject, because I know a lot less about it. ANY kind of related advice would be very appreciated!

    Thanks!
    audiobliss
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited September 2005
    I would consider a Soundsplinter sub. I own an RL-i10 (http://www.soundsplinter.com/rli_series/rli_10_inch_DIY_car_and_home_subwoofer_driver_information.html), and I am very happy with the sound it produces as well as the output. It has 20mm of Xmax. This is a little more than twice the excursion that the JL sub has. It can also handle more amplifier power. I know there is more to a sub than just the linear excursion it has, but this sub is also known for producing very low levels of distortion. Check out their site and see what you think. Mike the owner is very helpful. He will answer any questions that you have. Even if they point you to another company.
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,640
    edited September 2005
    8-15" subs can be accurate you bonehead.

    All depends on the quality.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • hellohello
    hellohello Posts: 428
    edited September 2005
    could always go for the soundsplinter rl-s model :D
    Picking ones nose signifies a strong sense of self discovery :)

    System in the works: ;)
    PP 6V6 with 12ax7 pre ~ 20 watts
    15" Jensen MOD 8ohm ~ 97db SPL
    DiMarzio HS3 and/or Tone Zone S
  • hellohello
    hellohello Posts: 428
    edited September 2005
    Picking ones nose signifies a strong sense of self discovery :)

    System in the works: ;)
    PP 6V6 with 12ax7 pre ~ 20 watts
    15" Jensen MOD 8ohm ~ 97db SPL
    DiMarzio HS3 and/or Tone Zone S
  • hellohello
    hellohello Posts: 428
    edited September 2005
    or since u mentioned 8's get two mm2084's, the cones are smaller, but u have two motors moving instead of just one, itll be musical, and if u have a small car its more than enough
    Picking ones nose signifies a strong sense of self discovery :)

    System in the works: ;)
    PP 6V6 with 12ax7 pre ~ 20 watts
    15" Jensen MOD 8ohm ~ 97db SPL
    DiMarzio HS3 and/or Tone Zone S
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited September 2005
    I would consider a Soundsplinter sub.

    Yeah, I've heard they're pretty nice, but I'm restricted from buying from a store. So, they're out.

    8-15" subs can be accurate you bonehead.

    All depends on the quality.

    :rolleyes: thanks


    hellohello wrote:

    :eek:
    Just a lil' too expensive! lol
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited September 2005
    Why are you obligated to buy from a regular store?
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited September 2005
    Well, I'd probably be inclined to anyways, but it's a moot point because of the parents.


    I'm beginning to think about the Polk MOMO MM2104. That should be pretty nice.
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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    Epson 8700UB

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    [Home Audio]
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    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited September 2005
    dude, you have a freakin tweeter next to you. Youre not getting a deal going to that guy for $250. It should be more like $175 for that combo, if they dont want to do that for you than youre getting screwed. Youll be able to find a much better deal at tweeter. If you dont want tweeter to install it then take it back to the shop that you like. If you dont like that install it yourself. I work 35+ hours a week and go to school full time. If I can find time to install in my truck, then you most certainly can find time to install.
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited September 2005
    exalted512 wrote:
    dude, you have a freakin tweeter next to you.

    Not really. I have two. :D
    exatled512 wrote:
    Youre not getting a deal going to that guy for $250. It should be more like $175 for that combo, if they dont want to do that for you than youre getting screwed. Youll be able to find a much better deal at tweeter.

    Well, like I said; I haven't talked prices with him in over a year, so I don't know what he'll do for me now. We'll have to see next time I go talk to him.
    exalted512 wrote:
    I work 35+ hours a week and go to school full time. If I can find time to install in my truck, then you most certainly can find time to install.

    Yeah, but what're your grades like?

    :D:D:D:D

    Just pickin'.
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited September 2005
    i currently have a 3.0
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited September 2005
    Well, I stopped by Tweeters today on the way home. My friend is still 'setting-up shop' at his new location, so I'm going to wait a while before I go and talk prices with him.

    So, what I found out at Tweeter:
    The same lady was working the CA section that usually is; and she knows no more than what she knew last time (which is just what they told her to say; appearantly that JL Audio is the best!!! Man, I so don't wanna buy from them. Hey, maybe I can go by the one in g'boro? Might be better....this also might be the longest paranthetical clause known to man....must be pretty close...). Anyhoo, it turns out that I can get a JL 10w1v2 in a small sealed box from them for $179.99. The sub itself is $109.99. I asked about the Polk MOMO MM2104 and she couldn't remember exactly what it cost (she appearantly wasn't much interested in looking it up, either). She did say it was about $10 or $20 more than the w1. If I can somehow get a nice sealed box for cheap, I'll probably just get the MM2104; maybe even order it from Polk. That reminds me, I've heard it mentioned before that club members get a discount; would this count? And if so, how much is that discount, usually?

    The more I think about it, the more I want the MM2104. We'll just see how it works out.
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
    In Use
    PS3, Yamaha CDR-HD1300, Plex, Amazon Fire TV Gen 2
    Pioneer Elite VSX-52, Parasound HCA-1000A
    Klipsch RF-82ii, RC-62ii, RS-42ii, RW-10d
    Epson 8700UB

    In Storage
    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
    Klipsch RF-35, RB-51ii

    [Car Audio]
    Pioneer Premier DEH-P860MP, Memphis 16-MCA3004, Boston Acoustic RC520
  • hellohello
    hellohello Posts: 428
    edited September 2005
    club members get a discount?
    Picking ones nose signifies a strong sense of self discovery :)

    System in the works: ;)
    PP 6V6 with 12ax7 pre ~ 20 watts
    15" Jensen MOD 8ohm ~ 97db SPL
    DiMarzio HS3 and/or Tone Zone S
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited September 2005
    I remember reading something like that when someone on the HA side was ordering tweeters for their speakers, or something like that. I'm not exactly sure what the deal is there.
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
    In Use
    PS3, Yamaha CDR-HD1300, Plex, Amazon Fire TV Gen 2
    Pioneer Elite VSX-52, Parasound HCA-1000A
    Klipsch RF-82ii, RC-62ii, RS-42ii, RW-10d
    Epson 8700UB

    In Storage
    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
    Klipsch RF-35, RB-51ii

    [Car Audio]
    Pioneer Premier DEH-P860MP, Memphis 16-MCA3004, Boston Acoustic RC520
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,640
    edited September 2005
    You get a discount + free 2nd day shipping for parts you have to pay for.

    Obviously if it is covered under warranty, this does not apply to you.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2005
    Get the MM2104. I have one and love it. Its better than the JL. And you know its true if Im recommending AGAINST JL. ;)
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited September 2005
    woohoo, JL sucks! I must say that the w1 isnt that bad of a sub. I heard it when it very first came out in a local shop and wasnt pleased at all, but i heard it in car about 3 weeks ago and i actually liked it. Now if theyll cut the prices in half for a w6 and w7 they might have something going.
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited September 2005
    Ok. Whenever I get my highs straightened out and have some more money saved up, I'll be looking for a MM2104.

    Thanks!!
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
    In Use
    PS3, Yamaha CDR-HD1300, Plex, Amazon Fire TV Gen 2
    Pioneer Elite VSX-52, Parasound HCA-1000A
    Klipsch RF-82ii, RC-62ii, RS-42ii, RW-10d
    Epson 8700UB

    In Storage
    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
    Klipsch RF-35, RB-51ii

    [Car Audio]
    Pioneer Premier DEH-P860MP, Memphis 16-MCA3004, Boston Acoustic RC520
  • denim
    denim Posts: 79
    edited October 2005
    MacLeod wrote:
    Get the MM2104. I have one and love it. Its better than the JL. And you know its true if Im recommending AGAINST JL. ;)


    :)good idea