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Still learning
Still learning Posts: 107
edited September 2005 in Car Subwoofer Talk
I know this is a big rumor and stuff but do sony xploads really over rate there power any more than any other sub woofer? and sony is know as a very top quality brand for most other electronics, so why dose this make a difference? i bought one like 2 years ago befor i knew they were **** so did i waste my money?
KDC-MP5028- Kenwood deck

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2 Alpine type R subwoofers in custom box

1000 watt Alpine -MRD-M1005- AMP

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,640
    edited September 2005
    Sony CA gear isnt that great. Especially the Xplod stuff... which is all Sony sells isnt it?

    Sony Home Electronics stuff is iffy, the ES line is the only good HA stuff - they make some good sources and TVs...
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited September 2005
    Yeah, you got ripped off, lol. As far as Sony in the CA world, it's just junk. Yeah, it's regarded as high-quality (and I used to think that, too), but it's really not. Just attractive-looking, unreliable, poor performing junk - that's not even cheap!

    In the HA world, I'll personally avoid them forever more, but the ES line is of decent to good quality.

    And yeah, I'm sure they over rate their subs. I know they WAY over rate their HA stuff, so I'd be surprised if they didn't do likewise with their CA stuff.

    Though it is a generalization and there are always exceptions to generalizations, I say stay away from Sony.
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited September 2005
    Bose is also considered high quality in home audio. In car audio, people think Memphis and Audiobahn are high quality. Misconceptions my friend... misconceptions.
    Never kick a fresh **** on a hot day.

    Home Setup: Sony VPL-VW85 Projo, 92" Stewart Firehawk, Pioneer Elite SC-65, PS3, RTi12 fronts, CSi5, FXi6 rears, RTi6 surround backs, RTi4 height, MFW-15 Subwoofer.

    Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2005
    Sony doesnt suck. Their speakers and subs are good but not great by any means. Their amps are built ok and they will occasionally make their rated power. Their head units are pretty good. Id have no problem owning one.

    Still, its best to avoid Sony for anything other than computers, digital cameras and TV's.
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited September 2005
    The new series of Sony subs actually hit pretty damn hard. Still sound like poo but hammer pretty well for the $$!
    Never kick a fresh **** on a hot day.

    Home Setup: Sony VPL-VW85 Projo, 92" Stewart Firehawk, Pioneer Elite SC-65, PS3, RTi12 fronts, CSi5, FXi6 rears, RTi6 surround backs, RTi4 height, MFW-15 Subwoofer.

    Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener.
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  • Still learning
    Still learning Posts: 107
    edited September 2005
    Here are some pics of the 10" sony, ive never seen one like this, what in the hell is the purpose of the metal voice coil?
    http://tinypic.com/dx1ngy.jpg
    http://tinypic.com/dx1nhx.jpg
    http://tinypic.com/dx1nj7.jpg
    http://tinypic.com/dx1nk3.jpg
    http://tinypic.com/dx1nnt.jpg
    KDC-MP5028- Kenwood deck

    Phoenix Gold speaker wire

    Alpine 6-1/2" Type-R Coaxial 2-Way Speakers- SPR17LP-, in side doors

    Alpine 5x7" Type R speakers -SPR-574A-, in the back.

    2 Alpine type R subwoofers in custom box

    1000 watt Alpine -MRD-M1005- AMP

    -Price invested- Over 1500$

    Not the absolute best, but it works like a champ, you can hear it from like 2 or 3 blocks away from your stand point.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited September 2005
    Hey, hey now...go easy on Memphis!!! :mad:

    :p
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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    PS3, Yamaha CDR-HD1300, Plex, Amazon Fire TV Gen 2
    Pioneer Elite VSX-52, Parasound HCA-1000A
    Klipsch RF-82ii, RC-62ii, RS-42ii, RW-10d
    Epson 8700UB
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    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
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  • Still learning
    Still learning Posts: 107
    edited September 2005
    What do you mean?

    Check out this web page, http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/print/1148

    It says my sub 10" XS-1065G is worth $239, how in the hell can that be true? I payed 80 for it brand new?
    KDC-MP5028- Kenwood deck

    Phoenix Gold speaker wire

    Alpine 6-1/2" Type-R Coaxial 2-Way Speakers- SPR17LP-, in side doors

    Alpine 5x7" Type R speakers -SPR-574A-, in the back.

    2 Alpine type R subwoofers in custom box

    1000 watt Alpine -MRD-M1005- AMP

    -Price invested- Over 1500$

    Not the absolute best, but it works like a champ, you can hear it from like 2 or 3 blocks away from your stand point.
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited September 2005
    Sony makes good tube TVs and... and... well they make good tube TV's at least.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited September 2005
    Still learning wrote:
    It says my sub 10" XS-1065G is worth $239, how in the hell can that be true? I payed 80 for it brand new?

    I'm sure it can't. It's Sony.
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
    In Use
    PS3, Yamaha CDR-HD1300, Plex, Amazon Fire TV Gen 2
    Pioneer Elite VSX-52, Parasound HCA-1000A
    Klipsch RF-82ii, RC-62ii, RS-42ii, RW-10d
    Epson 8700UB
    In Storage
    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
    Klipsch RF-35, RB-51ii
    [Car Audio]
    Pioneer Premier DEH-P860MP, Memphis 16-MCA3004, Boston Acoustic RC520
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  • Still learning
    Still learning Posts: 107
    edited September 2005
    check out the web page it even says on there, i dont belive it but damn it says it.
    KDC-MP5028- Kenwood deck

    Phoenix Gold speaker wire

    Alpine 6-1/2" Type-R Coaxial 2-Way Speakers- SPR17LP-, in side doors

    Alpine 5x7" Type R speakers -SPR-574A-, in the back.

    2 Alpine type R subwoofers in custom box

    1000 watt Alpine -MRD-M1005- AMP

    -Price invested- Over 1500$

    Not the absolute best, but it works like a champ, you can hear it from like 2 or 3 blocks away from your stand point.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited September 2005
    Haha. I knew it said it when I said it isn't. I'm contradicting Sony. Even if they say it's worth it...it's not.
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
    In Use
    PS3, Yamaha CDR-HD1300, Plex, Amazon Fire TV Gen 2
    Pioneer Elite VSX-52, Parasound HCA-1000A
    Klipsch RF-82ii, RC-62ii, RS-42ii, RW-10d
    Epson 8700UB
    In Storage
    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
    Klipsch RF-35, RB-51ii
    [Car Audio]
    Pioneer Premier DEH-P860MP, Memphis 16-MCA3004, Boston Acoustic RC520
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2005
    PolkThug wrote:
    Sony makes good tube TVs and... and... well they make good tube TV's at least.


    They make the best LCD on the planet! Their new XBR LCD is breathtaking. They have one on display at my local Circuit City and it blows the Aquos, Samsung and others out of the water! The only flat panel Ive seen that looks better is the Pioneer Elite {droooool}.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,640
    edited September 2005
    MSRP is alot different than what stores charge...

    Polk's MSRP is quite a bit higher than what you pay most of the time.
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited September 2005
    yeah the new 40" XBR LCD flat panel is pretty damn impressive. Not "Selling my Tube!" good but still very good!
    Never kick a fresh **** on a hot day.

    Home Setup: Sony VPL-VW85 Projo, 92" Stewart Firehawk, Pioneer Elite SC-65, PS3, RTi12 fronts, CSi5, FXi6 rears, RTi6 surround backs, RTi4 height, MFW-15 Subwoofer.

    Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2005
    I know the tube is supposed to be the best picture but I really like the way some LCD and Plasmas look. Id take a Pioneer Elite or XBR LCD over any tube Ive seen. I dont know why I just like the picture better.
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    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited September 2005
    lol you're falling into the hype, not the picture. ;)
    Never kick a fresh **** on a hot day.

    Home Setup: Sony VPL-VW85 Projo, 92" Stewart Firehawk, Pioneer Elite SC-65, PS3, RTi12 fronts, CSi5, FXi6 rears, RTi6 surround backs, RTi4 height, MFW-15 Subwoofer.

    Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2005
    So I think it looks better because a magazine ad told me it did? Nah, I can tell what picture looks better to me and which doesnt. You can tell me all day long a black and white tube looks the best but a little common sense will tell me otherwise.

    Besides, Im not saying ALL flat panels look better, just the XBR, Aquos and Elite. The other guys havent quite got theres perfected yet.
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,640
    edited September 2005
    Don't LCDs suffer from dead pixels?

    No thanks.
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited September 2005
    I'll agree that the XBR looks very nice (as well as teh new Samsung and LG sets) but I'll never say I like the Aquos. Honestly, I doubt I'd take one for free unless I could sell it. I'd rather spend money on a better one than take that one.
    Never kick a fresh **** on a hot day.

    Home Setup: Sony VPL-VW85 Projo, 92" Stewart Firehawk, Pioneer Elite SC-65, PS3, RTi12 fronts, CSi5, FXi6 rears, RTi6 surround backs, RTi4 height, MFW-15 Subwoofer.

    Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener.
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited September 2005
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote:
    Don't LCDs suffer from dead pixels?

    No thanks.

    Yep, and if you're lucky, the pixel will just go dark. Sometimes they can be stuck on red.

    "Yes sir, I understand that you just spent $4K on your Sony, but according to Sony's warranty, those 3 bright red pixels are acceptable."
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  • bknauss
    bknauss Posts: 1,441
    edited September 2005
    Sony's car stuff used to be up there with the best. The ES line was one of those things you wanted to have cause it was so great, but could probably never afford it. Unfortunately, they said screw it to that part of the market and focused on $200 pieces of crap for head units and ugly bling bling amps and speakers. The amps do make rated power (unlike Audiobahn... but that was before they claimed to be doing CEA2006), but they're nothing great.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2005
    PolkThug wrote:
    Yep, and if you're lucky, the pixel will just go dark. Sometimes they can be stuck on red.

    "Yes sir, I understand that you just spent $4K on your Sony, but according to Sony's warranty, those 3 bright red pixels are acceptable."


    So you mean LCD's have a tendency to have pixels just pick a color and stay that way??? Screw that! I didnt know that!

    The reason I liked LCD's over plasmas is I will be using mine for 50% Xbox'n and I keep hearing plasmas burn in like a ****.

    BK- Sadly that is true. Its ashame too cause Sony could make some smoking gear if they wanted to. If they would just dump the idiotic "Xplod" crap and go back to quality. Youll never see Alpine with chrome flames or some stupid name like Xplod. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited September 2005
    MacLeod wrote:
    Youll never see Alpine with chrome flames or some stupid name like Xplod. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    Well let's hope not, at least.
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
    In Use
    PS3, Yamaha CDR-HD1300, Plex, Amazon Fire TV Gen 2
    Pioneer Elite VSX-52, Parasound HCA-1000A
    Klipsch RF-82ii, RC-62ii, RS-42ii, RW-10d
    Epson 8700UB
    In Storage
    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
    Klipsch RF-35, RB-51ii
    [Car Audio]
    Pioneer Premier DEH-P860MP, Memphis 16-MCA3004, Boston Acoustic RC520
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited September 2005
    they DID go the way of BB much like RF... and we know what happened then.
    Never kick a fresh **** on a hot day.

    Home Setup: Sony VPL-VW85 Projo, 92" Stewart Firehawk, Pioneer Elite SC-65, PS3, RTi12 fronts, CSi5, FXi6 rears, RTi6 surround backs, RTi4 height, MFW-15 Subwoofer.

    Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2005
    Alpine? Theyve been in Circuit City for years and are still making top notch stuff. Nothing wrong with a little mass marketing. Hasnt seemed to hurt Polk any.
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
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