Life is suck but life is GREAT

TroyD
TroyD Posts: 13,077
edited February 2010 in 2 Channel Audio
Man, what a BEATING.

At the behest of doing some minor surgery on the Amazings (one of the bases appeared to be unstable so I had to re-drill the bases) which required me to move them to a more conducive location.....I decided to swap around the rigs. Moving 120lb plus speakers by yourself with no dolly CAREFULLY through the house is no small task.

The Amazings now are in the living room with Sunfire tube pre/Silver 9t's and the SDA 2.3tl's are in the cave with the CJ PV7/MV-75A1.

Why didn't I do this a LOOOONG time ago.....both rigs are MUCH improved. Moved the speakers and associated gear this morning and have been listening to each rig all day long.

As I said, life is suck but now life is GREAT.

(pics to follow, for some reason the Kodak easyshare program has taken a **** and I'm too beat to dick with it.)

BDT
I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited September 2005
    Congrats on your two new-found rigs!
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited September 2005
    The 2.3's should sound much better (fuller) in the cave. Your living room was TOO large for the bass to 'load up'.

    Good on ya Troy. Ima roll tubes in the Melos, dig on the arrays for a few, and do a couple tugs.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • DAGLJAM6
    DAGLJAM6 Posts: 635
    edited September 2005
    Troy, ya' shoulda pm'd I could've given you a hand after work. No sense getting hurt or damaging the speaks.
    Oh, and just to get under your skin:

    P. Floyd - DSOTM 2nd press but a good one to compare to the 180g
    Alan Parsons - I Robot
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    I figured they'd be long gone by the time you got out today.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited September 2005
    Wasn't TOO bad...

    Russ,

    What's the spacing that you have on your SRS's from the side walls and in between them??

    BDT
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited September 2005
    Half the middle space = the side spacing.

    48" between, 22" to side walls. You need to put that media shelf somewhere else maybe. If you are worried (or hear) side reflections, easy fix is to remove the grilles, and place them on the sides starting within a foot of the front plane of the speakers.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited September 2005
    Been spending the last couple of days effing with the setup of the speakers...

    It's cool because it's like two entirely different rigs that I *think* sound better than either did previously.

    I think the SDA's in a more intimate setting is pure magic. The bass REALLY loads up in a small room. Plus, mating the CJ PV7 with the MV-75A1 just WORKS. In spades.

    Out in the living room, I've been messing with the Amazings. Getting them out into the room a ways is a big help. Without damping the rear wall; the bass was to bloated. I'm still blown away at how musical they are and the just wall of sound they produce. They don't seemto play as loud as they really do, if that makes any sense. I've still got a bit of adjusting to do as the image isn't quite what it should be but we are close.

    Fun, fun, fun...

    BDT
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited September 2005
    YOU SUCK!!!!! ;):D

    Let me know when your tired of the CJ :D
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    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited September 2005
    I wouldn't hold my breath, broham

    BDT
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited September 2005
    There are two places that CJ will EVER be. Troy's house is one. Your house ISN'T the other.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited September 2005
    That amp came with 6awg strings attached ;)

    BDT
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  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited September 2005
    funny since I am still in a collection mode.

    twin
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited September 2005
    You know you have it bad when you keep a tape measure in your listening room. I keep mine very close at hand.................just finished tweaking my placement since getting my first SACD disc today. Very cool amount of separation and the soundstage of this disc is simply huge! Al Jarreau "All I Got". Every little tweak can make a ton of difference with big, full range speakers!!!

    Glad you found "2" new systems in your house Troy!

    DG
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    2 Channel Thorens TD 318 Grado ZF1, SACD/CD Marantz 8260, Soundstream/Krell DAC1, Audio Mirror PP1, Odyssey Stratos, ADS L-1290, ICs-DIY Twisted , Speaker-Raymond Cable
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited September 2005
    I have a big day-glo green one AND a level........how the eff else are you going to know if your speakers are positioned correctly?



    BDT
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited September 2005
    Tape, level, laser pointer, and survey transit here. That geek enough?
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited September 2005
    Full on pocket protector geek

    ****, I got tape down so I know where the speakers go

    BDT
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,575
    edited September 2005
    I marked the positions in pencil on the hardwood floor.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited September 2005
    Ok, how geek is this?

    I've spent the good portion of the afternoon trying to address the issue of the back wave from the Amazings. I'm a big believer that, unabated, an undamped rear wall with a dipole does more harm than good. Some will say that it helps throw a bigger soundstage, to which I tacitly agree but I think it can be unnaturally large. It also hinders a good image...and depending on your room, cause other issues. Anyhow, I digress...

    Anyhow, all day, I've been trying different fabrics on to cover the rear of the ribbons. How geek is THAT?? What did I end up with?? Plain masking tape...

    BDT
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited September 2005
    some pics....
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited September 2005
    Troy,
    You probably know this already but a 1/4" change in angle causes a huge sound shift. Have someone stand between them and push them forward and back until you get "THE SOUND" then set the angle to keep them there. Have you ever done this?
    madmax
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,575
    edited September 2005
    Masking tape behind the ribbons??? I never tried that one.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited September 2005
    oops pics didn't attach....
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited February 2010
    Huh, I was posting something in another thread and this is at the bottom of the page in related threads or some ****....

    FAAAK, Going on 5 years later and looking at the pics....I think I still have 2 things out of any of that....the f*cking TV and the XM tuna. The rest has gone buh-bye. Man, I'd like that CJ amp back....and the Sunfire pre...and the...

    Stupid hobby.
    BDT
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited February 2010
    They will live again one day I'm sure :)


    Funny the speakers pictures in this thread now sit in my family room.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
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    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,259
    edited February 2010
    If you don't mind me asking Troy what are you running now?

    Those rigs looked nice.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2010
    RuSsMaN wrote: »
    The 2.3's should sound much better (fuller) in the cave. Your living room was TOO large for the bass to 'load up'.

    Good on ya Troy. Ima roll tubes in the Melos, dig on the arrays for a few, and do a couple tugs.

    Cheers,
    Russ

    I'm with Russ....not sure why this didn't occur earlier. I bet that cave sounds more like your room back in the SDA glasses days....and that was pretty awesome.

    The SDA cultists get so caught up in how big they can be, and room recommendations that they often forget that they're quite capable of smaller, imperfect room greatness. But what would we know I guess. If you haven't modified your 20 year old loudspeaker, you're a loser these days.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited February 2010
    5 year thread revival....wow.
    TNRabbit
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2010
    I meant all mine in past tense, along with the Troy but it's no less relevant now than it was then. I'm sure you saw the word Carver and immediately got a hard-on.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,411
    edited February 2010
    sounds more like your room back in the SDA glasses days....

    good times good times
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited February 2010
    Agreed, I think SDA is actually better in a smaller / imperfect room.....

    Right now my rig is:

    VPI Scoutmaster
    Dodd tube phono stage
    Manley Shrimp pre
    Sony SCD-555 ES modded by sacdmods.com
    Heathkit W5M monoblocks
    Quad ESL-988's


    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited February 2010
    thats a pretty hot rig, pretty. Hopefully, the highly trained electronic repair person will finish and we will be up to do the do, cuz its what we do. I got my glasses at the ready.

    RT1
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