The Laws of High Quality Audio

F1nut
F1nut Posts: 50,729
edited April 2024 in Clubhouse Archives
I borrowed this from another forum. The list should be a sticky on every audio forum as a warning about how sick this hobby really is. Enjoy!


The Laws of High Quality Audio.

1. The bigger the sound system the better.

2. The more powerful the sound system the better.

3. There is no such thing as a sound system that is too big.

4. There is no such thing as a sound system that is too powerful.

5. You will always find that no matter how big you build the system it is never quite big enough.

6. You will always find that no matter how much power you have there never seems to be quite enough.

7. No matter how deep and powerful the bass sounds, it will always seem to be not quite deep enough and not quite powerful enough.

8. No matter how clear and detailed the treble sounds, you will always feel that it could be improved.

9. Achieving audio perfection is absolutely impossible no matter how much money you spend.

10. No matter how much money you spend you will always feel that the system is not quite as good as it could be.

11. If you think that your system sounds perfect then there must be something seriously wrong with it or something seriously wrong with you.

12. All your friends think that your system sounds much better than you do.

13. The longer you listen to your own system the worse it seems to sound.

14. Any dissatisfaction with a new system, no matter how slight, will always become greater as time goes on.

15. Any new pieces of equipment added to the system will always sound excellent initially but nowhere near as good when you get used to them.

16. Regularly listening to poor equipment for extended periods is good because it seems to make good equipment sound much better.

17. Regularly listening to good equipment for extended periods seems to make poor equipment sound absolutely dreadful and probably worse than it really is.

18. Any person's opinion on the sound quality of a system is completely worthless because someone else will have a different opinion.

19. Any alterations you make to the system to improve it, no matter how extensive, will never improve it to the extent you wanted it to.

20. No matter how good your system sounds, there will always be someone else with a system that sounds better.

21. You will always detect a difference between the sound qualities of two identical systems and never know why they sound different.

22. Any attempt to match different makes of equipment together will never work out quite as you originally intended.

23. Improving any individual part of the system will always make some other part of the system seem worse than it was before.

24. If you build a big listening room you will be very pleased with the result, but when you get used to it you will convince yourself that the room needs to be bigger.

25. An infinitely huge attempt to achieve perfection would at best only produce a system that was infinitesimally close to perfection, but still not perfect.
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited September 2005
    Can I have an "AMEN"???
  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited September 2005
    it kind of sounds like my life story.in chronological order.
    Rogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
    .Audience AU24SE speaker and ic cables- Chord Qutest DAC - Black Cat Silverstar II 75ohm digital cable-Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature system with large bass cabinets to accommodate 10" Seas magnesium woofers.2xhmpsuownoj.jpg
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited September 2005
    :D Thanks for the diagnosis :D
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited September 2005
    Isn't there a snopes page that would prove all that **** wrong? Huh? ;)
    comment comment comment comment. bitchy.
  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,083
    edited September 2005
    Anyone seen a white van lately?

    Lines 5/6 have an answer. Spelled S-R-T.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited September 2005
    9. Achieving audio perfection is absolutely impossible no matter how much money you spend.

    The definition of an "audiophile".
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
  • BrentMcGhee
    BrentMcGhee Posts: 548
    edited September 2005
    Very sad yet so very true
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited September 2005
    All these ring true one way or another but #13 seems to be what I'm afflicted with these days.

    13. The longer you listen to your own system the worse it seems to sound.

    I've been reverting back to taking my DAC out of the chain and just listening to the cdp.....that lasted a very short time. It seems we get so acustomed to how it sounds the freshness wears off. I need to stop be so critical and just listen/enjoy the system instead of constantly picking it apart. I listened last night for about 2 hours with the lights off and my eyes closed. It was a great experience. Just need to keep things in prespective sometimes.

    Great list BTW.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited September 2005
    :D None of that applies to me................















    Yeah, right!!! :p
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited September 2005
    In the end, it is more important to remember that a six pack will add more to the sound than any tweak. ;)
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
  • Pablo
    Pablo Posts: 723
    edited September 2005
    It also kinda reminds me of my sex life.
    Denon AVR-3803
    RTi-70 Fronts
    FXi-30 Surrounds
    RTi-38 Back Surrounds
    Csi-40 Center
    PSW350 Sub
    Panasonic PT-56WXF95 HDTVSamsung un60JS8000 SUHD
    Denon DVD-2910
    Xbox, Gamecube, PS2, PS3, PS4, xbox360, Wii, WiiU, n64
  • thehaens@cox.net
    thehaens@cox.net Posts: 1,012
    edited September 2005
    heiney9 wrote:
    All these ring true one way or another but #13 seems to be what I'm afflicted with these days.

    13. The longer you listen to your own system the worse it seems to sound.


    H9

    I was stuck on number 13 as well. :(

    scott
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited September 2005
    I must say that my simple and very modest system surprises and impresses me everytime I listen to it.
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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    Epson 8700UB

    In Storage
    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
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    [Car Audio]
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  • markmarc
    markmarc Posts: 2,309
    edited September 2005
    26. If the wife notices dust on the equipment, it's time to buy something new.

    27. Regretting not buying the "rare" piece of audio is nothing more than motivation for opening the wallet more quickly the next time.
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    Digital: SimAudio HAD230 DAC, iMac 20in/Amarra,
    Speakers: Paradigm Performa F75, Magnepan .7, Totem Model 1's, ACI Emerald XL, Celestion Si Stands. Totem Dreamcatcher sub
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2005
    I would humbly add one of my #1 rules in audio (I have several #1 rules).

    "The sweetness of low cost quickly fades while the bitterness of poor quality lingers."
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited September 2005
    ^ Ouch...you trying to say something about my system?! :eek:

    :cool:
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
    In Use
    PS3, Yamaha CDR-HD1300, Plex, Amazon Fire TV Gen 2
    Pioneer Elite VSX-52, Parasound HCA-1000A
    Klipsch RF-82ii, RC-62ii, RS-42ii, RW-10d
    Epson 8700UB

    In Storage
    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
    Klipsch RF-35, RB-51ii

    [Car Audio]
    Pioneer Premier DEH-P860MP, Memphis 16-MCA3004, Boston Acoustic RC520