receiver choice

moraks
moraks Posts: 49
edited September 2005 in Speakers
i am in the process of setting up a media room with rti12, csi5,fxi5 and the psw 505, i am trying to decide on a receiver, i am down to yamaha rxv 2500 or denon 3805. please advice if this are good choices or can I get a better bang for my buck with something else. my wife has me on a budget :)
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited September 2005
    Welcome to the forum!!

    Both receivers are great multichannel processors, but neither will drive RTi12s very well. The bass drivers in that big of a speaker deserve power from a separate amplifier. 200 wpc for the 12s would be just right, then the sub would be your next weakest link. Polk subs aren't anything to write home about. SVS, HSU, Outlaw and Rocket all make subs that will keep up with the rest of your gear.
    HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable

    2 Channel Thorens TD 318 Grado ZF1, SACD/CD Marantz 8260, Soundstream/Krell DAC1, Audio Mirror PP1, Odyssey Stratos, ADS L-1290, ICs-DIY Twisted , Speaker-Raymond Cable
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  • moraks
    moraks Posts: 49
    edited September 2005
    thanks, Dennis,

    after reading the thread about upgrading from rti8 to 12, i might go down to the rti8 and also select a sub from another vendor do you have a recommendation?
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited September 2005
    Any of the SVS box models would blow you away! They are more $$$ to start with but if movies are going to be the main event in your media room, you gotta have a sub that will keep up with those action movie soundtracks. They are really punishing on a sub that doesn't reach low and loud enough to fill your room.
    SVS
    HSU Subwoofers
    Outlaw Audio LFM-1 or LFM-2

    Good luck in your search, it is half the fun!!
    HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable

    2 Channel Thorens TD 318 Grado ZF1, SACD/CD Marantz 8260, Soundstream/Krell DAC1, Audio Mirror PP1, Odyssey Stratos, ADS L-1290, ICs-DIY Twisted , Speaker-Raymond Cable
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited September 2005
    dennis those are great sub recs.

    I also would take the Denon over the Yamaha. Don't trust Yamaha's wattage specs.
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
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  • moraks
    moraks Posts: 49
    edited September 2005
    thanks Dennis, i need to catch some zzzzs, will research this tomorrow, i could use the funds saved from the rti12 for the sub
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,092
    edited September 2005
    Receiver : NAD T773 & never look back!
    SUB: SVS 25-31PLUS - the combo of the two are absolutely fantastic!
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited September 2005
    Don't trust dennon wattage specs either... I'd say get the cheapest yammie w/ pre-outs, then get yourself a real power amp when you can afford it ('cause you'll need it sooner or later).
    Gallo Ref 3.1 : Bryston 4b SST : Musical fidelity CD Pre : VPI HW-19
    Gallo Ref AV, Frankengallo Ref 3, LC60i : Bryston 9b SST : Meridian 565
    Jordan JX92s : MF X-T100 : Xray v8
    Backburner:Krell KAV-300i
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  • moraks
    moraks Posts: 49
    edited September 2005
    are you saying that I should use this combination with the Rti8 or with the Rti12

    thanks for the info :)
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited September 2005
    unc2701 wrote:
    Don't trust dennon wattage specs either...

    good point. but imo Denon is a better product than Yamaha- and their wattage specs while not as accurate as say NAD, B&K, Marantz or H/K- are still much better than most.
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
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  • ninerbj
    ninerbj Posts: 870
    edited September 2005
    I have been using the Denon 3805 for about 6 months now in my HT room...I am VERY happy with it.
    "she had the body of Venus, with arms."
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  • moraks
    moraks Posts: 49
    edited September 2005
    ninerbj,

    what kind of speakers are you using with the denon 3805
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  • tdogroeder
    tdogroeder Posts: 53
    edited September 2005
    Dennis Gardner wrote:
    Any of the SVS box models would blow you away! They are more $$$ to start with but if movies are going to be the main event in your media room, you gotta have a sub that will keep up with those action movie soundtracks. They are really punishing on a sub that doesn't reach low and loud enough to fill your room.
    SVS
    HSU Subwoofers
    Outlaw Audio LFM-1 or LFM-2

    Good luck in your search, it is half the fun!!

    Dennis, I have a PSW303 sub, and It's not enough. I was thiking about going with HSU VTF MK2. I mainly use my system for movies, but do want the sub to sound nice for music. If I got this sub how much better would it be than my polk sub? I have considered the SVS PB10, and HSU STF-2 subs also.
    Yamaha RXV-757
    JM-Lab Focal Cobalt 816 S's, JM-LabFocal Cobalt CC 800 S, FXi3's, RT15's & PSW 303
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited September 2005
    The lowest level of either brand will play lower and louder than the 303. I would sell the Polk and buy the most sub I could afford and fit into my room. Musicality will abound in any of the choices from both brands.

    What size room and what speakers are you looking at using for your system?
    HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable

    2 Channel Thorens TD 318 Grado ZF1, SACD/CD Marantz 8260, Soundstream/Krell DAC1, Audio Mirror PP1, Odyssey Stratos, ADS L-1290, ICs-DIY Twisted , Speaker-Raymond Cable
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  • moraks
    moraks Posts: 49
    edited September 2005
    Dennis,

    i am down to the SVS pb12-isd and the outlaw lfm1 as my choice, my set up with the rti8, csi5 and fxi5 is mostly for HT, what is your recommendation for the sub
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited September 2005
    Tossup.........................the performance is too close to call between these two. Choose the one that fits your decor best. The SVS does have different veneers and textures that are nice.
    HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable

    2 Channel Thorens TD 318 Grado ZF1, SACD/CD Marantz 8260, Soundstream/Krell DAC1, Audio Mirror PP1, Odyssey Stratos, ADS L-1290, ICs-DIY Twisted , Speaker-Raymond Cable
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited September 2005
    Denon or Yamaha? Screw it. Just get yourself a Harman Kardon and relieve yourself of the misery of having to decide between runnerup and 5th place. =)
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited September 2005
    runner up eh... I can tell you don't sell HK for a living... you might change your tune. ;)
    Never kick a fresh **** on a hot day.

    Home Setup: Sony VPL-VW85 Projo, 92" Stewart Firehawk, Pioneer Elite SC-65, PS3, RTi12 fronts, CSi5, FXi6 rears, RTi6 surround backs, RTi4 height, MFW-15 Subwoofer.

    Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener.
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited September 2005
    Toxis wrote:
    runner up eh... I can tell you don't sell HK for a living... you might change your tune. ;)

    yeah those damn bugs and half second delays can be a real pain in the **** can't they? :)
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
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  • ninerbj
    ninerbj Posts: 870
    edited September 2005
    Moraks,
    HT has old Polk S10's, S4's, LSic (with and Outlaw m200 mono) and SVS 25-31 PCi
    "she had the body of Venus, with arms."
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,776
    edited September 2005
    Do yourself and favor and don't buy Yamaha, HK, Denon, Sony, JVC, Panasonic, Pioneer...etc

    And buy something from NAD and Outlaw. Be different! Don't go mainstream! ;)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • kingtut
    kingtut Posts: 813
    edited September 2005
    How about the new Outlaw receiver. The last one had the true wattage specs and had rave reviews. The new Outlaw should be just as good, probably a substantial improvement.
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  • Eman
    Eman Posts: 60
    edited September 2005
    I suggest Denon or Harman Kardon and I have an HK myself and am planing on getting a second one. I recently have had clipping issues with many receivers except the high current HKs though I must admit I have not tried Denon. Customer service and tech support is just as good as Polk if not better and that is saying a lot. Their musical ability, pre outs for separates, as well as their multiple crossover/bass management (even for 5.1 analog in) are extremely useful in milking every ounce of sound from your speakers. So put them on your list - at the top.
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