New HKs Coming Out...

Mike682
Mike682 Posts: 2,074
edited September 2005 in Electronics
Wow.....check out the AVR740 on page 6 (p.10 in brochure) :D

Nice new remotes too

http://manuals.harman.com/hk/Product%20Information/HKCoreLit06spreads.pdf
Receiver: harmankardon AVR235
Mains: polk R30
Center: polk CSi3
Rear Surrounds: polk R20
Subwoofer: polk PSW404
DVD: Panasonic DVD-S29
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  • fredv
    fredv Posts: 923
    edited September 2005
    Mike682 wrote:
    Wow.....check out the AVR740 on page 6 (p.10 in brochure) :D

    Nice new remotes too

    http://manuals.harman.com/hk/Product%20Information/HKCoreLit06spreads.pdf


    7.2, 2 sub outputs??

    -fredv-
  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited September 2005
    DAMN! so when will the refurbs be available???

    POLK SDA-SRS 1.2TL -- ADCOM GFA-5802
    PANASONIC PT-AE4000U -- DIY WILSONART DW 135" 2.35:1 SCREEN
    ONKYO TX-SR805
    CENTER: CSI5
    MAINS: RTI8'S
    SURROUNDS: RTI8'S
    7.1 SURROUNDS: RTI6'S
    SUB: SVS PB12-PLUS/2 (12.3 series)

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    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
  • Mike682
    Mike682 Posts: 2,074
    edited September 2005
    fredv wrote:
    7.2, 2 sub outputs??

    Yep.....dual sub connections right out of the receiver
    Receiver: harmankardon AVR235
    Mains: polk R30
    Center: polk CSi3
    Rear Surrounds: polk R20
    Subwoofer: polk PSW404
    DVD: Panasonic DVD-S29
  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited September 2005
    aside from the lack of analog tone controls on the faceplate- i don't see a difference between the 240 and the older 235. Even on the spec sheet. In fact the only one that appears different from it's predecessor is the 7.2 model (2subs are gimmicky imo)

    that catalog was fun to read over and I want that remote. :cool:
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
  • Mike682
    Mike682 Posts: 2,074
    edited September 2005
    Yeah not much diff between the 235-240. One improvement on the 240 is EZset+..

    I didn't even notice the lack of analog tone controls....too bad bec I like them
    Receiver: harmankardon AVR235
    Mains: polk R30
    Center: polk CSi3
    Rear Surrounds: polk R20
    Subwoofer: polk PSW404
    DVD: Panasonic DVD-S29
  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited September 2005
    yup- trickle down technology with each new line.

    Too bad Harman Kardon can't incorporate some of those nice Kenwood Receiver amp designs into their setups. :D

    If you look at the spec sheet- Independent Power Supplies, front and back for ALL their receivers. I'm now a H/K customer for life.
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
  • Mike682
    Mike682 Posts: 2,074
    edited September 2005
    Good thread w/ alot of info going on at avs

    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=579188
    Receiver: harmankardon AVR235
    Mains: polk R30
    Center: polk CSi3
    Rear Surrounds: polk R20
    Subwoofer: polk PSW404
    DVD: Panasonic DVD-S29
  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited September 2005
    I like the remote and the "47" SACD/DVD player. Its "past"time HK got up to speed with both of these items.

    No mention of a 7300 upgrade...............maybe it will be a pre/amp combo with 7 ch/150W amp power. I guess I can dream!!!!
    HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable

    2 Channel Thorens TD 318 Grado ZF1, SACD/CD Marantz 8260, Soundstream/Krell DAC1, Audio Mirror PP1, Odyssey Stratos, ADS L-1290, ICs-DIY Twisted , Speaker-Raymond Cable
  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited September 2005
    i wish h/k would start releasing Separate Amps again. Would consider upgrading from Adcom.

    then again, maybe not. :confused:
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited September 2005
    Did you see where they think MSRP on the 740 will be > $3K? Haven't looked at your link, but I don't think this is replacing the 7300. Could be just gas.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited September 2005
    I've got an old Citation 24 that I really like and the PA 2400 was a killer at 170w into 8 ohms.
    HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable

    2 Channel Thorens TD 318 Grado ZF1, SACD/CD Marantz 8260, Soundstream/Krell DAC1, Audio Mirror PP1, Odyssey Stratos, ADS L-1290, ICs-DIY Twisted , Speaker-Raymond Cable
  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited September 2005
    Thats gotta be wrong at 85w/ch its surely the replacement for the 635 phase-out. They have overlapped models a couple times in the last couple years.
    HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable

    2 Channel Thorens TD 318 Grado ZF1, SACD/CD Marantz 8260, Soundstream/Krell DAC1, Audio Mirror PP1, Odyssey Stratos, ADS L-1290, ICs-DIY Twisted , Speaker-Raymond Cable
  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited September 2005
    Just looked...weight of the 240 is 31lbs vs. 235 - 33lbs. Went on a diet. :D

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited September 2005
    Thats gotta be wrong at 85w/ch its surely the replacement for the 635 phase-out. They have overlapped models a couple times in the last couple years.

    That was the buzz over on AVS from an installer that supposedly is hooked into HK. Find it hard to believe myself. I would think this would be ~ $1400-$1500 MSRP from the specs.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • Mike682
    Mike682 Posts: 2,074
    edited September 2005
    Ron Temple wrote:
    That was the buzz over on AVS from an installer that supposedly is hooked into HK. Find it hard to believe myself. I would think this would be ~ $1400-$1500 MSRP from the specs.

    Me too...I don't think this is the 7300 replacement. Also, according to the specs, the 740 does not have a torroidal transformer, something the HK flagships usually have..

    Although this looks like an great recevier, the rumoured $3K pricetag is too high.
    Receiver: harmankardon AVR235
    Mains: polk R30
    Center: polk CSi3
    Rear Surrounds: polk R20
    Subwoofer: polk PSW404
    DVD: Panasonic DVD-S29
  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited September 2005
    the 740 is touting the hdmi "up-coversion" to 720p/1080i. my 7300 only up-converts to i believe 480p. my television up-converts to 540p or 1080i from there. plus the 7300 puts out 110x7. the 740 most definately will not be the replacement for the 7300. what was its predecessor? the 7200? so it would seem the replacement for the 7300 would be the 7400???

    POLK SDA-SRS 1.2TL -- ADCOM GFA-5802
    PANASONIC PT-AE4000U -- DIY WILSONART DW 135" 2.35:1 SCREEN
    ONKYO TX-SR805
    CENTER: CSI5
    MAINS: RTI8'S
    SURROUNDS: RTI8'S
    7.1 SURROUNDS: RTI6'S
    SUB: SVS PB12-PLUS/2 (12.3 series)

    XBOX 360
    WiiPS3/blu-rayTOSHIBA HD-A35 hd dvd

    http://polkarmy.com/forums/index.php
    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
  • Mike682
    Mike682 Posts: 2,074
    edited September 2005
    I think so....probably the 7400 like you said.
    Receiver: harmankardon AVR235
    Mains: polk R30
    Center: polk CSi3
    Rear Surrounds: polk R20
    Subwoofer: polk PSW404
    DVD: Panasonic DVD-S29
  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited September 2005
    A couple of AVS replies;

    spillz564:
    I find it rather interesting (especially in a forum like this one) that one person mentions a $3K price tag without any reliable information and now many are jumping on the bandwagon stating the price of the 740 is way too high.

    Does anyone have any **reliable** information on the price of the 740? I've contacted people at Harman and neither the 740 release date nor the MSRP is listed in their system.

    Barring any reliable information that surfaces I think it's rather preemptive to start bashing a retail price that hasn't even been confirmed...

    MCode:
    The AVR740 retail price of $2999 was announced @ CEDIA..

    If true that's alot of cash for this unit. :(

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited September 2005
    it'd be worth $3000 if they misprinted and actually meant 85wattspcx7@16 ohms................don't ask. i already ****-slapped myself.

    POLK SDA-SRS 1.2TL -- ADCOM GFA-5802
    PANASONIC PT-AE4000U -- DIY WILSONART DW 135" 2.35:1 SCREEN
    ONKYO TX-SR805
    CENTER: CSI5
    MAINS: RTI8'S
    SURROUNDS: RTI8'S
    7.1 SURROUNDS: RTI6'S
    SUB: SVS PB12-PLUS/2 (12.3 series)

    XBOX 360
    WiiPS3/blu-rayTOSHIBA HD-A35 hd dvd

    http://polkarmy.com/forums/index.php
    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited September 2005
    i'll post this here as well. Are the 24bit d/a converters in Harman Kardon receivers as nice as say an older model sony es player? (the single disc models, not the crummy changers)

    I can't find any info on an older es model d/a converter- the cdp209es. I don't know if it's 16bit, 24bit, 1bit- who knows? I've tried google- that model number hardly even comes up. Does anyone know?

    It all comes down to the hookup I suppose- Optical or Analog? :o
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
  • Mike682
    Mike682 Posts: 2,074
    edited September 2005
    Andrew...

    I'm not sure. I am sure someone here knows what d/a converter you have in that ES. I can tell you that I had a pioneer dvd player that was made in ~'97 which, I believe (not 100% sure) had 20bit/96khz d/a converters.
    Receiver: harmankardon AVR235
    Mains: polk R30
    Center: polk CSi3
    Rear Surrounds: polk R20
    Subwoofer: polk PSW404
    DVD: Panasonic DVD-S29
  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited September 2005
    thanks Mike. I guess I'll just leave it on analog. That player was really nice back in the day and compared to the 'inch' high players that come out today- it's built like a brick. I was just curious over the whole HDCD thing. I know our H/K's decode HDCD.
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
  • Mike682
    Mike682 Posts: 2,074
    edited September 2005
    Inside my panny dvd player....Is this the d/a converter???
    Receiver: harmankardon AVR235
    Mains: polk R30
    Center: polk CSi3
    Rear Surrounds: polk R20
    Subwoofer: polk PSW404
    DVD: Panasonic DVD-S29
  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited September 2005
    no dumbass- that's a circuit board. ;)

    actually i have no idea if those 2 grey things are d/a's or not. Have no idea what d/a's look like. :)
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
  • Mike682
    Mike682 Posts: 2,074
    edited September 2005
    I meant the AKM chip :D:D
    Receiver: harmankardon AVR235
    Mains: polk R30
    Center: polk CSi3
    Rear Surrounds: polk R20
    Subwoofer: polk PSW404
    DVD: Panasonic DVD-S29
  • SniperREX
    SniperREX Posts: 930
    edited September 2005
    The new remote TC-30 seems an awesome universal remote. Too bad they don't sell it.

    If the MSRP of the 740 is 3k, it's way too much :eek: !


    TVs: Samsung S95B 65" QD-OLED (den) and LG C2 42" OLED (office)
    Receiver: Denon AVR-X3700H (den) and Denon AVR-X2300W (den)
    SACD and DVD-A player: Oppo BDP-83
    Mains: Polk RTi8 (den) and Dali Ikon 8 (office)
    Center: Polk CSi5 (den) and Polk CSi3 (office)
    Surrounds: Polk FXi5 (den) and Velodyne surrounds (office)
    Sub: SVS PB-2000 (den) and PCi 16-46 (office)
  • Mike682
    Mike682 Posts: 2,074
    edited September 2005
    SniperREX wrote:
    The new remote TC-30 seems an awesome universal remote. Too bad they don't sell it.

    If the MSRP of the 740 is 3k, it's way too much :eek: !

    Someone said that remote is a copy of the harmony 880
    Receiver: harmankardon AVR235
    Mains: polk R30
    Center: polk CSi3
    Rear Surrounds: polk R20
    Subwoofer: polk PSW404
    DVD: Panasonic DVD-S29
  • Mike682
    Mike682 Posts: 2,074
    edited September 2005
    andrew, check this site out (bookmarked at AKM list, maybe you can find your ES dac here....check menu on left to search other dacs):

    http://www.digchip.com/datasheets/parts/ak/parts_ak02.php
    Receiver: harmankardon AVR235
    Mains: polk R30
    Center: polk CSi3
    Rear Surrounds: polk R20
    Subwoofer: polk PSW404
    DVD: Panasonic DVD-S29
  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited September 2005
    well i found one on there. it's a 1bit dac with 4x oversampling. lets' hope that's not mine. ha!
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
  • SniperREX
    SniperREX Posts: 930
    edited September 2005
    Mike682 wrote:
    Someone said that remote is a copy of the harmony 880

    Actually it looks like a twin of the Harmony 520 :D. MSRP $99 not bad, maybe I found the perfect universal remote for my daddy :D.


    TVs: Samsung S95B 65" QD-OLED (den) and LG C2 42" OLED (office)
    Receiver: Denon AVR-X3700H (den) and Denon AVR-X2300W (den)
    SACD and DVD-A player: Oppo BDP-83
    Mains: Polk RTi8 (den) and Dali Ikon 8 (office)
    Center: Polk CSi5 (den) and Polk CSi3 (office)
    Surrounds: Polk FXi5 (den) and Velodyne surrounds (office)
    Sub: SVS PB-2000 (den) and PCi 16-46 (office)