AH! 4000 CDP....Real Hot !

beardog03
beardog03 Posts: 5,550
edited September 2005 in Electronics
I just went to take the power cord off of a piece of gear in my office when I noticed the Ah! was hot to the touch...

It`s plugged in , but hasn`t been powered on for a couple of days...

any ideas what`s going on ?

I`m gonna open her up to take a look , but should there be power going into and through the unit if it`s not turned on..?

WTF..?
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited September 2005
    okay, I just put in the brand new (matched)gold pin EI`s that jesse suggested I try, into my ELP, and flipped the switch...they glowed bright orange for a couple of seconds,at the bottom of the tube, like they were gonna blow, then settled down to normal...

    is this normal for brand new tubes..?

    Or are the audio gods pissed at me too...

    I took the cover off the Ah!, and the bunch of little blue caps were all hot....tubes seemed okay...

    What should I look for...besides a big bottle of scotch...?
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited September 2005
    You should look for decent NOS tubes, and throw that Yugo **** in the ash can. That glowing is NOT normal. You have a tube, or ELP issue, period. Roll something else - see what happens.

    You posted the other day about putting 7308's in your Jolida - which uses a 12ax7 variant, not 6DJ8 - I'm beginning to get concerned you aren't using the right tubes in your gear.

    Ima hook Beardog up in less than a week. You need to pm/email me with what you are running, and where - so I can bring you what you need. Then, I can pour you a few shots and take advantage of you.

    Cheers,
    Russ (3 to go)
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited September 2005
    Love you too bro... :D

    The Ah! came with 7308`s (Siemens)..
    I have AD825, and OPA627 chips for it also...If I remember correctly I removed them to install the board..( I also have four other stock chips)

    I just opened the Jolida , and found that the Ei`s that came with it, along with the ECC83S (JJ Electronics..made in Slovak Republic), are still in thier boxes, and the tubes that are in the cdp say Jolida on them...that would explain the "thin" sound..

    I know have two new pairs of the Ei`s (12AX7EG)

    I may just pack all my tubes in a box and bring them with.. :o

    I `m really looking forward to shacking your hand and getting some outstanding tubes for the Jolida...

    Why would the caps get hot if the unit was just plugged in and not turned on..?
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited September 2005
    I just took the cover off and plugged it into the main rig in the other room , and now it`s cool as a cucumber...what gives..?
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,779
    edited September 2005
    It's not unusual for a new tube to "flash" when first powered up, it'll then settle down just like you described. If they "flash" every time you power up, then you do have a problem.
    I just opened the Jolida , and found that the Ei`s that came with it, along with the ECC83S (JJ Electronics..made in Slovak Republic), are still in thier boxes, and the tubes that are in the cdp say Jolida on them...that would explain the "thin" sound..

    The stock Chinese tubes are crap, stick the Ei's in there.....after 50 hours or so, see what you think then.

    Not sure what's going on with the Ah!
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited September 2005
    I already notice a difference..! :)
    I have matched pairs in the dodd and the Jolida....gold pin as you suggested

    The Ah! seems to have stopped whatever it was doing.
    I have it hooked up to a different power source now...maybe the power strip wasn`t grounded properly..?

    I love my Ah!
    I don`t want it to AH!splode.. :p

    Just a couple more days jess... :cool:
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,779
    edited September 2005
    I don`t want it to AH!splode..

    Man, that's so bad, it's good!
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited September 2005
    :D:D:D:D :d...
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited September 2005
    beardog03 wrote:
    Love you too bro... :D

    I `m really looking forward to shacking your hand

    Holy Crap!! :eek:

    RT1
    :D
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited September 2005
    I `m really looking forward to shacking your hand
    Hey...he can't be doin' that! Only I can do that.
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,907
    edited September 2005
    beardog03 wrote:
    I `m really looking forward to shacking your hand ...
    shack wrote:
    Hey...he can't be doin' that! Only I can do that.

    Hmmm! :confused: Russ's hand seems to be pretty popular for some reason. I'm not into that stuff but hope you guys enjoy it :rolleyes:
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