Any Prog Rock fans??

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  • slaperre
    slaperre Posts: 9
    edited March 2006
    The definition of prog seem to be fairly wide to most folks. Back in the '70s I don't know if I would have classified Rush, Kansas or Styx (among others) as prog, but looking back, many of their songs certainly contained prog sensibilities. Styx to a lesser extent. Rush, I realize now, has been a prog band all the long. I liked their first three or four "album", but moved on when they seemed to become more commercial.

    Let face it, prog bands, especially in north America, have to sacrifice commercial success to remain somewhat true to the form. Radio sucks in the US. XM and Sirius not withstanding. There's just no room for prog.

    Until a couple of years ago I thought prog was long gone. Prog-metal? The first time I heard Opeth Deliverance I thought, "Oh sure I'll give it a listen." Two year later I heard Damnation. Could this possibly be the same group?

    I've only listen to the last two Porcupine Tree CDs and am really intrigued by the earlier stuff.

    I found Blackfield at Fry's a couple of weeks back. It gets better with each listening, but is it really prog?

    What is prog to you?
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited March 2006
    Dream Theater and Savatage rock.
    Progressive Metal is what I like to call them.

    MSG and House Of Lords were decent back in the day as well.
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  • Billm57
    Billm57 Posts: 689
    edited March 2006
    slaperre wrote:
    The definition of prog seem to be fairly wide to most folks. Back in the '70s I don't know if I would have classified Rush, Kansas or Styx (among others) as prog, but looking back, many of their songs certainly contained prog sensibilities. Styx to a lesser extent. Rush, I realize now, has been a prog band all the long. I liked their first three or four "album", but moved on when they seemed to become more commercial.

    Let face it, prog bands, especially in north America, have to sacrifice commercial success to remain somewhat true to the form. Radio sucks in the US. XM and Sirius not withstanding. There's just no room for prog.

    Until a couple of years ago I thought prog was long gone. Prog-metal? The first time I heard Opeth Deliverance I thought, "Oh sure I'll give it a listen." Two year later I heard Damnation. Could this possibly be the same group?

    I've only listen to the last two Porcupine Tree CDs and am really intrigued by the earlier stuff.

    I found Blackfield at Fry's a couple of weeks back. It gets better with each listening, but is it really prog?

    What is prog to you?
    the early Kansas albums were definatly prog..the later stuff Like Dust In The Wind..not really.
    Although I love Blackfield I do not consider them prog at all

    here is a good witeup on what Prog rock might be..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prog_rock#Characteristics_of_progressive_rock
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  • crazy
    crazy Posts: 443
    edited April 2006
    Friends, our album got reviewed in the recent Progression Magazine (Prog Rock magazine)

    http://www.progressionmagazine.com/

    It wasn't super flattering but they did say a few cool things about the album. Not bad for an amateur attempt - 10.5 out of 15 rating amongst the big boyz isn't bad eh?

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39714
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  • avelanchefan
    avelanchefan Posts: 2,401
    edited April 2006
    Jimmy Chamberlin Complex



    Folks if you get the chance pick up this CD. Any prog rock fan would be proud of it. This is one amazing CD from the Smashing Pumpkins/Zwan drummer.


    http://www.jimmychamberlincomplex.com/
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited April 2006
    MacLeod wrote:

    Nightwish is my second favorite right now. I love nearly every song they have. For those that dont know, theyre from Finland, play very heavy with a keyboard that sounds like cellos and a classically trained chick singer. Theyre awesome!

    Stratovarius is another band Im into.

    Nightwish is actually power metal/symphonic metal. Their earlier stuff can be considered power metal. I saw them live last year. Tarja is beautiful. I also got her solo single where she sings classical type stuff. Check out www.tarjaturunen.com

    What's your favorite NW album? "Once" is my favorite album. Isn't "Love Ghost Score" a f*cking masterpiece? I also love "Everdream" from their "Bless the Child" album.

    Damn, I think I'm gonna change my sig to something from NW. Yeah!

    You should check out Kamelot. The chick from Stratovarious did some guest vocals on there. Kamelot is pretty much Nightwish with a male vocalist. I saw them back in Dec and they're coming back in Sept. Gotta see them again. www.kamelot.com

    Oh yeah, the beautiful Siren of Nightwish:D
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited December 2009
    What's up with this time limit edit thing?

    Hit the wrong button and prematurely posted the previous reply... Here's the completed post...

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    Nice old thread... Quite a number of top examples listed... Pink Floyd, Genesis (though I think think the early, Gabriel-led stuff more ArtRock-ish and the later, post-Gabriel more CrapRock-ish), Zappa (let George be Mr. Grand), King Krimson and my beloved Yes... Close to the Edge tops my ProgRock list...

    For more well-known, classic, ProgRock names try...

    Emerson, Lake & Palmer - S/T, Tarkus (Is this your ELP, Mr. Buhl?)
    Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed
    Traffic - John Barleycorn Must Die, Low Spark of High-Heeled Boys
    Dave Mason - Alone Together
    Jethro Tull - Aqualung, Thick as a Brick
    Alan Parsons Project - I Robot
    Supertramp - Even in the Quietest Moments

    For more from lesser knowns...

    Wishbone Ash - Argus
    Focus - Moving Waves (remember "Hocus Pocus"? No? Think yodeling...)
    Tangerine Dream - Phardra
    Rick Wakeman - Six Wives of Henry VIII
    Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells (Exorcism anyone?)
    Renaisance - Turn of the Cards
    Ambrosia - Ambrosia
    10cc - 100cc

    For more, but more shaded towards ArtRock...

    Audience - House on the Hill
    It's a Beautiful Day - It's a Beautiful Day
    Roxy Music - Avalon
    More later,
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited December 2009
    I'm totally against anything with the word "progressive" in it. :D
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    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited December 2009
    I got a good laugh out of this article...
    http://www.cracked.com/funny-2359-progressive-rock/
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • dudeinaroom
    dudeinaroom Posts: 3,609
    edited December 2009
    What, no talking Heads? Go get some, throw it on, enjoy the sda sonic hologram and burn down the house. The go grab some Peter Gabriel and shock the monkey. Don't worry, you won't be the owner of a lonely heart.
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,842
    edited December 2009
    OMG! Is that really Bruce posting?

    It's a Christmas Miracle!
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  • dudeinaroom
    dudeinaroom Posts: 3,609
    edited December 2009
    Jstas wrote: »
    OMG! Is that really Bruce posting?

    It's a Christmas Miracle!

    Yes it is, I know, I get all giddy too.
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited December 2009
    zombie boy 2000 wrote: »
    I got a good laugh out of this article...
    http://www.cracked.com/funny-2359-progressive-rock/

    The Nickleback mash-up is freaking hilarious.
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited December 2009
    zombie boy 2000 wrote: »
    I got a good laugh out of this article...
    http://www.cracked.com/funny-2359-progressive-rock/

    Dong vs. **** cd covers. BRILLIANT!
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited December 2009
    That article os absolute garbage, and a very inaccurate of what prog rock really is
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited December 2009
    The yodelling guy is funny as **** though
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited December 2009
    I think it's all meant as a joke. More than likely, it was probably written by a prog rock fan.
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited December 2009
    Ditto... major tongue in cheekage... very funny.

    For me ProgRock's was always an easy defintion: Rock you cannot dance to.

    BTW... Focus' Moving Waves is actually a pretty sttrong LP, yodeling not withstanding.

    Hey, John. Ho Ho Ho...

    Dude, is that you Brent?
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  • timw902834
    timw902834 Posts: 6
    edited December 2009
    Tour2ma wrote: »
    For me ProgRock's was always an easy defintion: Rock you cannot dance to.

    Yet that doesn't stop them from trying during "Roundabout" at Yes concerts. Yes, it is a disturbing sight, but so bad as the alternation between the frenzied writhing and slow weaving that may be observed during "Heart Of The Sunrise".
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited December 2009
    AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »
    Not sure if that's an answer to my question or you're re-iterating my mention of Yes, or both...but yeah I figured you'd chime in on this thread.

    Got any other suggestions beyond what I've mentioned, I assume you do?


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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited December 2009
    Demiurge wrote: »
    Yes. I love everything the Mars Volta/Omar Rodr
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited December 2009
    timw902834 wrote: »
    Yet that doesn't stop them from trying during "Roundabout" at Yes concerts. Yes, it is a disturbing sight, but so bad as the alternation between the frenzied writhing and slow weaving that may be observed during "Heart Of The Sunrise".
    LoL... I saw that guy summer of '71 in the Akron Rubber Bowl (Opening act: The Eagles; 2nd act: John McLaughlin and the Mahavishnu Orchestra)

    Guy simply confused dancing with imitating a beheaded chicken... but to his credit he didn't even try during John Mc's set. Then again the drugs may not have kicked in at that point.
    More later,
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  • slaperre
    slaperre Posts: 9
    edited December 2009
    Here are couple of good resources:

    www.progressiveears.com
    www.progarchives.com
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  • Dawgfish
    Dawgfish Posts: 2,554
    edited December 2009
    I am a big fan of progressive rock. I love Rush, Kansas, Yes, Dream Theater, King Crimson, ELO, Allan Parsons Project, Floyd, Queensryche, Faits Warning, Kings X, etc.

    My fist recollection of prog rock was my oldest sister jamming Rush's 2112 on vinyl in the basement when I was 5 years old. I instantly fell in love with it. From that moment on, Rush has been and always will be my favorite band. Sure I get into other groups and branch out to other stuff, but I always come back to my Rush roots.
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited December 2009
    Prog toward the late 70s started being less ambitious and more pretentious, then pretty much faded as the big bands started fragmenting or moved to more airplay. That said, I still get off on the early stuff...here's a few that don't get remembered much...

    Camel
    Caravan
    Todd Rundgren's Utopia
    Gentle Giant
    Triumverate - ( a German ELP clone, but very good)
    Starcastle - a Yes clone from NJ with a guy who sounds very similar to John Anderson. I think they still have a cult following in the east.

    Show's that were noteworthy:
    Yes - Yes Album, just prior to Fragile, but with a few Fragile songs (1972)
    Yes - Close to the Edge
    Genesis - Selling England by the Pound (full costume extravaganza)
    Genesis - Lamb Lies Down (in the top 5 concerts I've ever seen...course I was on Windowpane), Seconds Out was another monster, as was Wind and Wuthering
    ELP - Pictures at an Exhibition, Trilogy, Brain Salad Surgury (in the top 3), Works 1
    Pink Floyd - Animals...top 3
    Gentle Giant...a bunch of times at medium sized venues
    ELO...the one with Dorothy's shoes
    TRs Utopia - the album with Glass Guitar song and the next solo project Revelations (might not be the name, but the mushrooms were good).
    Kansas - Point of Know Return

    I'm probably forgetting a few, but those were some of the highlights of the 70s :D. I saw several of the bigger bands in the 80s and a few times since, but it wasn't the same...kids, marriage, work. Still spin some of it now and again.

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  • muncybob
    muncybob Posts: 3,064
    edited December 2009
    Love Camel!!

    As a teen living in England I sometimes bought albums at flea markets based on the cover art....that's how I first heard Camel and been a fan ever since.
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  • starkiller
    starkiller Posts: 2,723
    edited December 2009
    Since alot of the prog stuff came out when I was buying zillions of albums i thought i would throw in my 2 cents:

    Help Yourself....Beware the Shadow
    Nektar...Remember the Future....Journey to the center of the Eye
    Dust...S/T
    Wishbone Ash...Argus...a classic and superb
    Renaissance...Prologue
    Atomic Rooster...Death Walks Behind You
    Jethro Tull...Thick as a Brick
    Camel...Mirage
    Traffic..Shootout at the Fantasy Factory
    Hawkwind...Space Ritual...Hall of the Mountain Grill
    Amon Duul 2...Wolf City...kinda :)
    Barclay James Harvest...Octoberon
    Tangerine Dream....Stratosfear
    Neu!...Neu!
    PFM..Photos of Ghosts
    ELO---S/T
    Todd Rundgren...Oops! Wrong Planet
    and of course
    Mike Oldfield..Tubular Bells
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  • Fongolio
    Fongolio Posts: 3,516
    edited December 2009
    I was out thrift store rumaging today and found a copy of Dream Theater's Images and Words in brand new condition on cd for $2.00.
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  • michaeljhsda2
    michaeljhsda2 Posts: 2,185
    edited December 2009
    Little Neutrino is one of a few choice cuts from Klaatu's debut album. The Loneliest of Creatures from their Hope album is another good one. I discovered the songs on Grooveshark dot com. It's an awesome website where you can listen to music for free.
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  • Fongolio
    Fongolio Posts: 3,516
    edited December 2009
    Agreed. Klaatu had some great tunes.
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