thoughts on a sub...definitive tech supercube reference!

BIZILL
BIZILL Posts: 5,432
edited August 2005 in Speakers
thoughts on a sub............11hz?? that ought'ta take care of my low end!

POLK SDA-SRS 1.2TL -- ADCOM GFA-5802
PANASONIC PT-AE4000U -- DIY WILSONART DW 135" 2.35:1 SCREEN
 ONKYO TX-SR805
CENTER: CSI5
MAINS: RTI8'S
SURROUNDS: RTI8'S
7.1 SURROUNDS: RTI6'S
SUB: SVS PB12-PLUS/2 (12.3 series)
XBOX 360WiiPS3/blu-rayTOSHIBA HD-A35 hd dvd

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I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
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  • Mazeroth
    Mazeroth Posts: 1,585
    edited August 2005
    That sub couldn't hit 11hz. with any usable output on its best day.

    If you want a REAL subwoofer, study this site:

    http://www.infinitelybaffled.com/
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited August 2005
    I think of a LOT better ways to spend $1700.
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited August 2005
    i think the supercubes are really nice; as the Definitive Tech speaker line in general. I love their philosophy on bipole speakers.
    If you like it, go for it.
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2005
    A waste of money.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited August 2005
    dorokusai wrote:
    A waste of money.

    or that too. ;)

    Hey Mark, I just picked up a sony 209es single disc player on ebay for $40 including shipping. I'm sure it's a good deal (considering it's $40) but do you have any experience with the older model ES single disc players from Sony? Should I connect it with high quality analog RCA's or a high quality Optical cable. I can get a good Vampire Wire optical for about $35 and looking to do just that. As for the player itself, the thing looks tip-top.

    (edit) i'm not exactly crazy with the way my dvd changer handles redbook.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5800000532&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1#ebayphotohosting
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited August 2005
    Beware of marketing... LSi7's can go down to 11Hz as well... You need some ground plane measurements added. Try getting a hold of "CraigSub" or "Ed Mullen" on the AVS forum (Ed doubles here as "Doc Spec") Both of them have all the info you need.
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,776
    edited August 2005
    The Definitive Tech Supercube Reference is marketed with an Overall* frequency response. It's actual drop off point is around 30-28hz. In room it may be around 24-22hz, depends on the size of the room.

    The Reference is nothing impressive, it is boomy, not musical - just very loud with a nice 50hz hump. I wouldn't buy it. SVS is much more impressive by a long shot, and for a lot less money.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2005
    aaharvel wrote:
    or that too. ;)

    Hey Mark, I just picked up a sony 209es single disc player on ebay for $40 including shipping. I'm sure it's a good deal (considering it's $40) but do you have any experience with the older model ES single disc players from Sony? Should I connect it with high quality analog RCA's or a high quality Optical cable. I can get a good Vampire Wire optical for about $35 and looking to do just that. As for the player itself, the thing looks tip-top.

    (edit) i'm not exactly crazy with the way my dvd changer handles redbook.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5800000532&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1#ebayphotohosting

    It's a good player, reliable and bulletproof. I would just stick with RCA's. i'm a big fan of Sony ES transports.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited August 2005
    thanks alot. i'll stick with analog then.
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
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  • gregure
    gregure Posts: 871
    edited August 2005
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote:
    The Reference is nothing impressive, it is boomy, not musical - just very loud with a nice 50hz hump. I wouldn't buy it. SVS is much more impressive by a long shot, and for a lot less money.

    I second that opinion. If you're prepared to spend $1700 on a sub, get a Depth from Martin Logan. 3 independently amplified 8" aluminum drivers firing in equilateral directions, effectively canceling internal cabinet resonance, giving you tight, accurate and deep bass. An excellent sub, highly rated in all the audio magazines I've ever seen it mentioned in. The Descent is the biggest one, with 3 10" drivers, but the Depth is enough for any living room, unless you need to know you have the biggest. The Descent is more like $3,000.

    The Depth is far superior to anything from Definitive. I recommend looking into it. You can check it out here.
    Current System:

    Mitsubishi 30" LCD LT-3020 (for sale**)
    Vienna Acoustics Beethoven Concert Grand (Rosewood)-Mains (with Audioquest Mont Blanc cables)
    CSi5-Center (for sale**)
    FXi3-surrounds (for sale**)
    Martin Logan Depth-Sub
    B&K AVR 507
    Pimare CD21-CD Player
    Denon 1815-DVD Player
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited August 2005
    I May Just Go With An Svs Pb12-isd/2. Their Reps Emailed Me Very Quickly And Suggested I Go That Route. I'm Sure That Is A Great Path In Which To Follow. Thank You Everyone.

    POLK SDA-SRS 1.2TL -- ADCOM GFA-5802
    PANASONIC PT-AE4000U -- DIY WILSONART DW 135" 2.35:1 SCREEN
     ONKYO TX-SR805
    CENTER: CSI5
    MAINS: RTI8'S
    SURROUNDS: RTI8'S
    7.1 SURROUNDS: RTI6'S
    SUB: SVS PB12-PLUS/2 (12.3 series)
    XBOX 360    WiiPS3/blu-rayTOSHIBA HD-A35 hd dvd

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,776
    edited August 2005
    BIZILL wrote:
    I May Just Go With An Svs Pb12-isd/2. Their Reps Emailed Me Very Quickly And Suggested I Go That Route. I'm Sure That Is A Great Path In Which To Follow. Thank You Everyone.

    Yeah, that would absolutely slaughter the DT subwoofer. It would be more than you would ever need, and then some. Go for it!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • marker
    marker Posts: 1,084
    edited August 2005
    BIZILL wrote:
    I May Just Go With An Svs Pb12-isd/2. Their Reps Emailed Me Very Quickly And Suggested I Go That Route. I'm Sure That Is A Great Path In Which To Follow. Thank You Everyone.

    Whose reps?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,776
    edited August 2005
    Probally SVS.......
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited August 2005
    SVS' REPS. http://www.svsubwoofers.com/subs_pb12_isd_2.htm IS THEIR RECOMMENDATION. OR UP THE MONEY SPENT TO GO WITH THIS MONSTER. http://www.svsubwoofers.com/subs_pb12_plus_2.htm. EITHER ONE WILL KNOCK ME ON MY ****.

    POLK SDA-SRS 1.2TL -- ADCOM GFA-5802
    PANASONIC PT-AE4000U -- DIY WILSONART DW 135" 2.35:1 SCREEN
     ONKYO TX-SR805
    CENTER: CSI5
    MAINS: RTI8'S
    SURROUNDS: RTI8'S
    7.1 SURROUNDS: RTI6'S
    SUB: SVS PB12-PLUS/2 (12.3 series)
    XBOX 360    WiiPS3/blu-rayTOSHIBA HD-A35 hd dvd

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited August 2005
    For $1700, you could hold out hope for a B-stock PB12-Ultra2
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited August 2005
    Extremely Nice, But Out Of My Budget -- Well, Out Past My Credit Limit! ;)

    POLK SDA-SRS 1.2TL -- ADCOM GFA-5802
    PANASONIC PT-AE4000U -- DIY WILSONART DW 135" 2.35:1 SCREEN
     ONKYO TX-SR805
    CENTER: CSI5
    MAINS: RTI8'S
    SURROUNDS: RTI8'S
    7.1 SURROUNDS: RTI6'S
    SUB: SVS PB12-PLUS/2 (12.3 series)
    XBOX 360    WiiPS3/blu-rayTOSHIBA HD-A35 hd dvd

    http://polkarmy.com/forums/index.php
    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
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