Whata' be Tube pre amp Q's

disneyjoe7
disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
edited August 2005 in 2 Channel Audio
I wish to add a pre amp in my future, but have some Q's. I love'd the sound of Troy's Conrad Johnson, I like the look of Reeltrouble1 new Dodd pre. So here's the problem can't stop thinking about the Cary SLP98 pre, just love the look of that pre :) One little problem it's a little rich for my blood, but that may out grow me. My Q is the tube in use of these amp is a 6SN7 over the 12AX7 vs. the 12AU7 so I think the AX and the AU sound somewhat alike, but the 6NS7. So what are the differences about these tubes, sound or anything plus or minus about one tube over the other tube.

Speakers
Carver Amazing Fronts
CS400i Center
RT800i's Rears
Sub Paradigm Servo 15

Electronics
Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
Parasound Halo A23
Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
Pioneer 79Avi DVD
Sony CX400 CD changer
Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited August 2005
    OK... I admit Drugs must have been good to me. What or want I don't know my W's.

    Sorry I'm an idiot, maybe a nice guy but again an idiot at times.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited August 2005
    Other then one being used in a more expensive amp / one being 6 volt element vs. a 12 volt element. Anyone??

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,548
    edited August 2005
    The Cary is a high end pre amp, I'd take one in a heartbeat.
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited August 2005
    F1nut wrote:
    The Cary is a high end pre amp, I'd take one in a heartbeat.


    Jesse,

    Is this a "Take one in a heartbeat" a brand preference? I find other pre's in the same price range using the 12AU7 or 12AX7 but few pre's use the 6NS7 tube.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited August 2005
    Steve,

    Why dont you drive up and hear the Dodd, you can camp out here, then you can hear the Cary at Polkfest.

    Ted
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited August 2005
    Steve,

    Why dont you drive up and hear the Dodd, you can camp out here, then you can hear the Cary at Polkfest.

    Ted


    Better yet pack up the Dodd and we all can hear them side by side.

    BTW you know if a Cary pre will be there?

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited August 2005
    Check Doro's Sig, he has the Cary listed.

    RT1
  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited August 2005
    The 6SN7 is harder to find (exoctics /nos), and is accurate, but too medicinal, to dry for my tastes. 12AX7 (and family), 6DJ8 (and family) are much more musical, more involving.

    If you like it on the clinical side, go with 6SN7/6SL7.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited August 2005
    RuSsMaN wrote:
    The 6SN7 is harder to find (exoctics /nos), and is accurate, but too medicinal, to dry for my tastes. 12AX7 (and family), 6DJ8 (and family) are much more musical, more involving.

    If you like it on the clinical side, go with 6SN7/6SL7.

    Cheers,
    Russ

    Russ,

    You're the Tube guy thank you for giving me enough info so I didn't rush into anything. I will have to find and hear some of this stuff to know where I like to be.

    Steve

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • BobMcG
    BobMcG Posts: 1,585
    edited August 2005
    It would be interesting to hear an A/B compare between the DODD and the Cary.

    I could be mistaken but I believe Mark used to own the MLP before the Cary and might have a preference or opinion in advance?
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2005
    The Dodd Audio is one of the best pre-amps I have heard to date. I really like the Cary, but sonically I would have to give a SLIGHT edge to the Dodd. When it comes to flexibility and input/output options, the edge is certainly the Cary.

    They are all excellent pieces of gear, but I'm always on a quest for something new.

    Hey DJ, wanna buy a Cary? :D
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,548
    edited August 2005
    Yeah Steve, I like Cary products. Mark's is very nice, you should buy it.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited August 2005
    The picture that started it all. My new love.

    Just saving my pennies, and will have to hear some 6SN7 amp prior.

    alndy0.jpg

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2005
    The Jaguar Red and exposed tubes is pretty nice looking, but don't base the purchase on that or the actual tube compliment.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited August 2005
    Doro,

    Yes you're right I'm new to Tubes, well I never had audio tubes. I have some education classes on tubes, but never own audio tubes equipment.

    I like that Pre amp looks really sweet, but it's just a like look never sound that. I question that tube, but I see that even Dodd high side uses that tube also. You said that Dodd sounds better, but is it a Tube thing or?

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • PolknPepsi
    PolknPepsi Posts: 781
    edited August 2005
    disneyjoe7 wrote:
    alndy0.jpg

    Just this past weekend I auditioned this same preamp at a local hifi shop. It looks like a million bucks and the controls feel silky smooth. I dont own or know much about these things but a tube pre is in my future too. I have heard they mate well with solid state amplifiers and may give it a very nice sound.
    Over at the Klipsch forum the Juicy Music line of preamps are popular with the regulars and is one I've considered. The tubes are inside and the wood finishes on the cabinet come in different finishes. Good Luck with your future preamp.
    Denon #2900, Denon stereo receiver, Conrad Johnson Sonographe 120 amp, Blue Jeans cables, and Klipsch RF-7's
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited August 2005
    She looks so Sweet ;)

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited August 2005
    dorokusai wrote:
    The Jaguar Red and exposed tubes is pretty nice looking,

    I sure would give her a whirl damm she is sexy ;)
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited August 2005
    :confused: That looks as if there are tone controls and it utilizes a remote.. Am I seeing things correctly???? :confused:
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  • PolknPepsi
    PolknPepsi Posts: 781
    edited August 2005
    The salesguy told me that Cary did come with a remote which for me would be great. I can't remember what he said it would cost me :confused: or if it had tone controls, it was a quick audition. That Jaguar Red color is just as nice in person.
    Denon #2900, Denon stereo receiver, Conrad Johnson Sonographe 120 amp, Blue Jeans cables, and Klipsch RF-7's
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited August 2005
    I sure would give her a whirl damm she is sexy ;)


    I would love to compare your Dodd to that amp :)

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR