Stereo Subwoofers with 4 ASCENDANT AUDIO 12" drivers each

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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited August 2005
    I'm kind of lucky in that regard ;)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,747
    edited August 2005
    Early B. wrote:
    Dammit, Sid! Now I gotta build another sub.

    Don't worry, I gotta buy another SVS...

    Dual SVS's would be SWEET.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • michael_w
    michael_w Posts: 2,813
    edited August 2005
    Great article Sid. Now where can I find another atlas 15 for cheap?? :p I don't suppose using my old athena sub8 would work very well since there is no way it could keep up with the atlas. (plus it doesn't sound nearly as good)
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited August 2005
    How are they coming Russ?
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    edited August 2005
    slowly, got a full day of working on them today.
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited August 2005
    Jesus man, don't you EVER clean your garage?? ;)

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    edited August 2005
    TroyD wrote:
    Jesus man, don't you EVER clean your garage?? ;)

    BDT

    I was actually in the middle of cleaning it up when I started this project, MAJOR clean up is needed now.

    Snapped a picture of the cabinets today, miss post them later, wait till you see it them 1" of dust covering everything in site, plus tools laying everywhere.
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited August 2005
    TroyD wrote:
    Jesus man, don't you EVER clean your garage?? ;)

    BDT

    Hey, some of us keep the "boss" IN the house :D

    Mine gets so mad SHE cleans it :cool:
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited August 2005
    Here's a 1000W plate from PE on the "cheap"

    http://classifieds.mtbr.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/classifieds.pl?db=Audio&website=AudioReview&language=&session_key=&search_and_display_db_button=on&results_format=long&db_id=11800&query=retrieval
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    edited August 2005
    Nothing too special going on yet. I forgot how much sanding is involved, these are big and times 2. Finding time to work on these is getting hard, mostly later in the evenings, which happens to be beer time also, so the two work against each other. Hoosier21 gets lazy when drinking beer. I WILL have these ready for primer by the weekend. Textured paint is starting to take the lead on the finish, I am afraid I will get tired of sanding before I get them "right" and may need the help of the texture to hide poorly aligned joints.
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited August 2005
    Get a router and recess those drivers in the front panel!
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    edited August 2005
    madmax wrote:
    Get a router and recess those drivers in the front panel!
    madmax

    I was going to, but I really think these drivers will look better surface mounted without the recess. I might still, who knows, I am am already pushing my limits on how long I can wait to move these inside and hook them up.
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited August 2005
    So how are you placing these? Upright or laying down? How long before you get thrown out of the house? :)
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    edited August 2005
    madmax wrote:
    So how are you placing these? Upright or laying down? How long before you get thrown out of the house? :)
    madmax

    Upright

    I am sure it will be the same night I take them in.
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited August 2005
    hoosier21 wrote:
    I am sure it will the same night I take them in.


    Maybe you better get that garage cleaned up, huh? :D
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  • 95Honda
    95Honda Posts: 77
    edited August 2005
    amulford wrote:
    How are they going to be wired? What kind of load will you end up with? And why are you doing a stereo pair? Won't that give you cancellation problems?

    I like the idea. I got my eye on this.

    For finish, I'd go with laminate veneer. It shouldn't be too expensive, you just have to shop around.


    Stereo subs is the way to go.....

    I have my pair of Tumults in EBS alignments seeing 2.5KW per driver. I tried one to start with, there is just something better about having a stereo pair....
    www.forceaudio.com .... We cut through the BS.
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited August 2005
    :O

    Those are truely nice looking speakers, 95Honda. How do you keep pictures on top, though? :D
    Ludicrous gibs!
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  • 95Honda
    95Honda Posts: 77
    edited August 2005
    Thanks!

    The cabinets are 2" thick, heavily braced and spiked to the floor. They don't really move much at all. At full output they vibrate a little, but not too much.

    A few months ago we brought a Termlab SPL meter to my house and with 5KW they reached 126db @ 20Hz at my listening position which is about 8' centered in front of them. They have a pretty healthy output.....

    They are tuned at 16.5Hz. they can only handle that kind of power right at or a little above tuning. Normally they aren't played to those levels anyway...
    www.forceaudio.com .... We cut through the BS.
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  • nellis8166
    nellis8166 Posts: 292
    edited August 2005
    Pretty healty output??? That may be the understatement of the day. Nice set-up 95Honda.
    RTi10
    CSi5
    RTi28
    SVS PB12-ISD2

    Denon 2106(pre/pro)
    Adcom 5503(200x3)

    Audioquest Diamondback ICS
    Kimber Kable 8tc biwire(mains and center)

    "Don't let your silly dreams fall in between the crack of the bed and the wall."
    -J. James
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited August 2005
    Well??? How are they coming??
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    edited August 2005
    amulford wrote:
    Well??? How are they coming??

    Should be ready first quarter of 2006.

    Actually should have been done this weekend, but other things got in the way. they are painted, waiting on some binding posts to get here Wens. and then I am set to wire them. I would say Wens. night they will be fired up and tested.
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited August 2005
    Did you get the neighbor to paint them for ya? Pics when you get the chance, please.
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    edited September 2005
    OK they are done. I will say the project was fun/a pain in the a$$/rewarding/expensive.

    Quick run down on costs:
    3/4 MDF, it took 6 sheet of this stuff @ 25.00 a sheet, I wanted 1.5" cabinet and the sizes of the panels made it a very wasteful.

    Drivers, even with the sale, these 8 drivers were 960.00 delivered.

    Finish, I ended up using teh Rustoleum "hammered look" in black, great finish, but at 5.89 a can, my poor painting skills, frigging bugs landing on wet paint, I ended up using 12 cans.

    Glue, screws, sandpaper??? say 20.00

    I needed an amp, 600.00 ( this will go up as the Crown is for sale and I am looking for a fanless replacement)

    I needed a crossover, I bought a new Outlaw ICBM 275.00 delivered

    Grand total = around $ 2000.00

    These where a bear moving around to sand and paint, then I loaded the drivers and damn! I had to call in some help to move them in the house, serious weight.


    Was it worth it? So far I really like what I hear, too soon to tell as the drivers are not brooken in completely, but I have mostly what I was searching for, TIGHT BASS, it is very fast, and when asked it will fill the horrible room I have for my stereo.

    Here is a picture of one, I would take a picture of the other, but it look the same. I really like the look of these, the paint finish is cool and the exposed drivers look mean as hell. I just took the Crown amp out of the rig, so not wire management comments, :D

    Thanks for looking
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited September 2005
    Wow!!!!!

    You need to rent a SEMI so you can bring those with you to Polkfest, so you can show them off :D
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited September 2005
    Those look friggin great man.
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • Schris22
    Schris22 Posts: 983
    edited September 2005
    wow indeed!

    Just reinforce your walls and foundation! j/k of course....not really...=P

    Wish I could hear them

    Congrats!

    Chris
    Receiver: Onkyo TX-SR502-S
    DVD Player: Pioneer DV-578A-S
    Left and Right: R50
    Center: CS1
    Rear Center: R15
    Surrounds: R30
    Subwoofer: 10'' Dayton 100 Watt
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  • dholmes
    dholmes Posts: 1,136
    edited September 2005
    You said you have two of them!! They look great!! Where in your theater did you place them?
    My HT set-up Panasonic front proj, 120 in ws screen, ATI amp,Integra 9.8 pre-pro, 2 Polk rti150, cp 1000, 4 fx 1000, Pioneer blu-ray 2 SVS sub pb 12-ultra 2, & Paragon popcorn popper. ps 3 Coaster leather HT recliners.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited September 2005
    VERY NICE! I especially like those rounded edges. When you play them do you get the feeling you are not pushing them at all?
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    edited September 2005
    Thanks for all comments guys, I like the way they turned out also.

    ND13 - taking them to Mark's would be cool
    dholmes - not going to use them for HT, I built them for my 2 channel rig
    madmax - not pushing them at all, that was a goal, to get all the bass I needed or wanted without straining the subs, the drivers are hardly moving, until I get stupid and "hey, ya'll what this".
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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  • dholmes
    dholmes Posts: 1,136
    edited September 2005
    Are you going to connect them at your pre-amp in-out & run your spk at lg?
    My HT set-up Panasonic front proj, 120 in ws screen, ATI amp,Integra 9.8 pre-pro, 2 Polk rti150, cp 1000, 4 fx 1000, Pioneer blu-ray 2 SVS sub pb 12-ultra 2, & Paragon popcorn popper. ps 3 Coaster leather HT recliners.
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