WTB: Tubes for my Audio Experience Symphonies preamp

rnp614rnp614 Posts: 598
edited August 2005 in Wanted (WTB) Classifieds
I've never purchased tubes before, but I dont have much money to spend. The less out of my pocket the better. I'm just looking for a pair of back up tubes since now that I've got room for a second setup it doesnt seem to be getting a break. That and I leave it on for hours at a time when I'm gone and forget to shut it off. What would you guys recommend for an alt. rock fan?

lay it on me!
Raj
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  • Early B.Early B. Posts: 8,171
    edited August 2005
    Luckily, you have plenty of choices -- most of which are inexpensive. For the 12AX7's, stick with Electro Harmonix or Sovtek 12AX7LPS. You can get 'em cheap on ebay or www.tubedepot.com or www.tubestore.com.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • rnp614rnp614 Posts: 598
    edited August 2005
    what is the other kind of tube in this thing? I just moved so I cant find my box with all my manuals!
  • faster100faster100 Posts: 6,247
    edited August 2005
    6x4 rectifier tube and 3 12ax7's.... I had this pre-amp before i got my dodd audio pre, I have a Ge vintage 6x4 1956 black plate you can have for 8 bucks shipped if interested... I just got a bunch of tubes in and had one 12ax7 and a 6x4...
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • PaulyPauly Posts: 4,521
    edited August 2005
    I personally dont like NOS / Vintage tubes in mine. I say pick up a JAN 6x4 and some EH 12Ax7's good start and on da cheap, then go from there......

    Pauly
    Life without music would
  • faster100faster100 Posts: 6,247
    edited August 2005
    Have you tried NOS? besides the rectifier? NOS can sound the same as current production tubes however i havent had a microphonic vintage tube yet and they all sound great... New tubes are hit and miss on sound... Jan's sound good all around, Ive tried a ton of old tubes and love them all.. BUt its to each is own.... Ive rolled a ton of tubes in the last 6 months for my limited time with tubes anyways.. The sovtek 12ax7lps's were great tubes as well

    mullard remakes, ton of jan's.sovtek.EH. amperex bugle boys, telefunken, GE, RCA, mullard, sylvania, ratheons,amperex 7308 orange globe and green... yugo's.. to name a few
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • PaulyPauly Posts: 4,521
    edited August 2005
    faster100 wrote:
    Have you tried NOS? besides the rectifier?
    Geee would the GE 5 Stars be NOS?? :rolleyes:
    Life without music would
  • faster100faster100 Posts: 6,247
    edited August 2005
    Geee would the GE 5 Stars be NOS?? :rolleyes:


    faster100 wrote:
    Have you tried NOS? besides the rectifier?


    sarcasm is not necessary :rolleyes:
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • PaulyPauly Posts: 4,521
    edited August 2005
    faster100 wrote:
    sarcasm is not necessary :rolleyes:
    dont get your panties in a bunch i gave my opinion just like you gave yours. he cant take it for what its worth.
    Life without music would
  • faster100faster100 Posts: 6,247
    edited August 2005
    paul ya know what, stop derailing the thread with this non sense.. you havent used NOS/vintage except the 6x4 you bought and the one i gave you.. its hardly experience to give to a newbie tube user.. I have alot to learn with tubes but have tried several vintage tubes in 2 different tube pre-amps and 2 tube amps... so i can speak from personal use.. for extended periods.. :rolleyes:
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • PaulyPauly Posts: 4,521
    edited August 2005
    Oh i;m sorry Mr Tube All Mighty.
    1st. I'm not derailing ****. Dont try and make me look like a bad guy here. 2nd how the eff would you know WTF i have used. I woulnt give my OPINION if i hadnt tried it. That is exaclty what i did, gave MY opinion just like you did and Early did. Sorry it doesnt go along with yours. Didnt you just write "To each his own" With my setup i didnt like the sound of NOS / Vintage on my rig, got anymore problems with that?????
    Life without music would
  • faster100faster100 Posts: 6,247
    edited August 2005
    What ever :rolleyes: so name the tubes you rolled? and didnt like. I'm just asking why you say NOS/VINtage doesnt sound good when you have never used any, maybe 1 or 2... unless you bought a bunch of 12ax7's, tried them and decided you didnt like them..... Bad guy? Nah im not trying to make you look like that, your doing a stand up job of that all by yourself there bud.. by getting all defensive with me, seems you have turned right into the rest of em AROUND here... some i should say... No sweat i dont care anymore... carry on paul.. I'm done
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • PaulyPauly Posts: 4,521
    edited August 2005
    "Victim"

    RAJ Take it for what its worth. Guess some people cant handle different opinions. Good luck on your quest for TUBE NIRVANA!

    Done!

    Pauly
    Life without music would
  • faster100faster100 Posts: 6,247
    edited August 2005
    LOL, paul..... I can show ya how a victim acts!! if ya want
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • PaulyPauly Posts: 4,521
    edited August 2005
    faster100 wrote:
    LOL, paul..... I can show ya how a victim acts!! if ya want

    I Already know Cliff...I already know.
    Life without music would
  • faster100faster100 Posts: 6,247
    edited August 2005
    No, in person!!! :D
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • PaulyPauly Posts: 4,521
    edited August 2005
    faster100 wrote:
    No, in person!!! :D
    Oh now you want to fight me....LOL. Geez :rolleyes: You really are a class act.

    Goahead and keep on a diggin. I;m done wasting my time on this.

    Pauly
    Life without music would
  • rnp614rnp614 Posts: 598
    edited August 2005
    oh wow. never would've expected this!
  • burdetteburdette Posts: 1,205
    edited August 2005
    rnp614 wrote:
    oh wow. never would've expected this!

    Get used to it. Tubes give off a type of radiation that makes one belligerent after hours and hours of absorption.

    The information has been well hidden, but I know a guy who knows a guy who has actual photos of "The Great Tubeophile Masacre of 1969" - broken tubes and bloody audiophiles everywhere.... at what was supposed to be a friendly gathering. Don't even look for information on the Tubeopalooza knifings of 1972... very sad, but VERY well covered up. You're just a Queen CD away from chasing down your neighbor with a septic weedwhacker.
  • PaulyPauly Posts: 4,521
    edited August 2005
    Hey RAJ PM me your addy and will send you a NOS 6x4 RCA Black Plate Square Getter. Pretty Clean about 20 hours my time on it. Oh yeah its Free. Just give us a little review on it after you demo it.


    Pauly
    Life without music would
  • PaulyPauly Posts: 4,521
    edited August 2005
    I just came across this thread http://clubpolk.polkaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30673

    And this coming from credible members. You cant really go wrong with the EH's. Good all around tubes and i really like them on rock!

    Pauly
    Life without music would
  • faster100faster100 Posts: 6,247
    edited August 2005
    Hey RAJ PM me your addy and will send you a NOS 6x4 RCA Black Plate Square Getter. Pretty Clean about 20 hours my time on it. Oh yeah its Free. Just give us a little review on it after you demo it.


    Pauly

    piece of work huh? LOL .. I'll send ya my GE for free its a tested 1956 black plate :) and the GE's sound great in that pre, Rca's were ok too i guess :rolleyes:
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • organorgan Posts: 5,022
    edited August 2005
    Raj,
    Current production X7 tubes will cost you about $10 a pop. The best one IMO is the Sovtek 12AX7LPS.

    I consider Electro Harmonix the standard and compare every other current production tube to them. Some will sound better and some worse depending on the tube type. But one thing's for certain, the EH house sound is great for everything.

    Maurice
  • rnp614rnp614 Posts: 598
    edited August 2005
    Oh come on now guys.
  • dorokusaidorokusai Posts: 25,488
    edited August 2005
    Stop bickering fools, you sound like me and F1 sometimes....and I love that **** :)
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • faster100faster100 Posts: 6,247
    edited August 2005
    True, its done deal.... on my end. The EH and sovtek are great choices in current production tubes for that pre, I'm just saying vintage has its own sound too and its good!
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • rnp614rnp614 Posts: 598
    edited August 2005
    I'll probably end up with the EHs so I can learn what the baseline should sound like. Thanks for all the suggestions guys!
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 43,397
    edited August 2005
    Funny stuff guys, carry on.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • PaulyPauly Posts: 4,521
    edited August 2005
    faster100 wrote:
    I have a Ge vintage 6x4 1956 black plate you can have for 8 bucks shipped if interested....
    Hey RAJ PM me your addy and will send you a NOS 6x4 RCA Black Plate Square Getter. Pretty Clean about 20 hours my time on it. Oh yeah its Free. Just give us a little review on it after you demo it.


    Pauly
    faster100 wrote:
    piece of work huh? LOL .. I'll send ya my GE for free its a tested 1956 black plate :) and the GE's sound great in that pre, Rca's were ok too i guess :rolleyes:

    :rolleyes:
    Life without music would
  • faster100faster100 Posts: 6,247
    edited August 2005
    Take my advice and stop being a dick... I'm not pushing NOS tubes, but you still havent said what vintage tubes you have experience to be starting this crap with me, and saying they don't sound good :rolleyes: My offer for the "now" free tube stands from someone who has tried old tubes :D not allegedly :D
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • PaulyPauly Posts: 4,521
    edited August 2005
    The Sovteks i bought from earlyb a while back didnt really sound good IMO vs the EH's so i brought them to work to get ready to sell when i find out a guy at work plays the G-tar and has a Tube Amp. Gee wouldnt you know he has some old tubes.

    RCA 12AX7A gray ribbedplate 60's to 70's
    sylvania 12AX7 gray plate square getter i think he said 50's
    GE 5 Star 12AX7 gray plate and i think spare getter 60's

    Havent got around to demoing anymore since i have been working on the house we just bought.

    Now piss off and sell whatever Polkie love stuff you got from here on ebay.
    Life without music would
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