Surround Receiver?

RVJII
RVJII Posts: 167
edited July 2005 in Electronics
A friend of mine insists on getting a Bose surround system. I know...I know...I can't seem to talk him out of them even though he loves my Polks.

Anyway, he also is going to need a new receiver and I am trying to come up with a good recommendation. Anyway, I was thinking of suggesting something like an Onkyo TX-SR602 or a Denon 1905 or 2105.

Any thoughs or recommendations?
A lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
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  • Schris22
    Schris22 Posts: 983
    edited July 2005
    what type of bose system and what are the specs? Most bose don't have big drivers and their subs don't look like they are hard to push. My dad has one bose system (can't remeber the name) off of an old sony which pushed out around 90 "sony" watts I believe. It wasn't the ES line for sure and it played loud enough to fill a fairly size bedroom(no est on room dimensions)

    Depending on the listening volume and how much you want "out" of those bose than you can always spend more money, but I doubt and highly doubt you won't be dissatisfied with those receivers pushing a bose system.

    Chris
    Receiver: Onkyo TX-SR502-S
    DVD Player: Pioneer DV-578A-S
    Left and Right: R50
    Center: CS1
    Rear Center: R15
    Surrounds: R30
    Subwoofer: 10'' Dayton 100 Watt
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  • Mike682
    Mike682 Posts: 2,074
    edited July 2005
    Either of those will be fine....

    But, I always recommend that when looking at receivers, look for pre-outs. This will allow you to keep your receiver and add a more powerful amplifier. Saves money in the long run....I don't think those receivers listed have pre-outs (although the Denon 2105 might have them).

    Also, this may be a moot point, but keep in mind the Denons usually don't offer many digital coax inputs. The lower models usually only have one. Whether this is important is up to the buyer (I use 2 dig coax on my sys).

    Overall, you can't go wrong with either one of those if the above doesn't matter to you.

    I have seen some very good deals on the Onk 602, poke around..
    Receiver: harmankardon AVR235
    Mains: polk R30
    Center: polk CSi3
    Rear Surrounds: polk R20
    Subwoofer: polk PSW404
    DVD: Panasonic DVD-S29
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  • jet2001
    jet2001 Posts: 180
    edited July 2005
    I just bought a Denon 885, which is the 2105's brother unit. I couldn't be happier. Well, I could...still having remote issues. But that's the users fault, not the unit.

    You are giving good advice...your friend would be happy with any of those receivers.


    Edit: Yes, the 2105 has pre-outs.
    RTi4-fronts
    CSi3-center
    R15-surrounds
    Cerwin Vega LW15-Sub
    Denon AVR 885
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  • kberg
    kberg Posts: 974
    edited July 2005
    A former coworker of mine has a Bose system with the same Onkyo receiver I have, and he loves it.
    Mains: polkaudio RTi70's (bi-wired)
    Center: polkaudio CSi40 (bi-wired)
    Surrounds: polkaudio FXi30's
    Rear Center: polkaudio CSi30
    Sub: SVS 20-39 PC+
    Receiver: ONKYO TX-SR600
    Display: JVC HD-56G786
    DVD Player: SONY DVP-CX985V
    DVD Player: OPPO DV-981HD 1080p High Definition Up-Converting Universal DVD Player with HDMI
    Remote: Logitech Harmony H688
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  • marker
    marker Posts: 1,084
    edited July 2005
    If he's getting Bose, it doen't even matter. You couldn't tell the difference between the cheapest Aiwa or Koss and the best Krell or McIntosh.
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  • Mjr7531
    Mjr7531 Posts: 856
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by Schris22
    what type of bose system and what are the specs?

    Bose doesn't publish specs, unless something new and radical happened over there. To work with they say that the impedance is 4-8. (?)

    EDIT: Forgive me, I am mistaken, here are the provided specs.

    Each speaker: • 9 3/4"H x 14 1/3"W x 9 5/8"D • (24.8 x 36.2 x 24.9 cm)

    Pair in carton: • 18 1/3"H x 24 1/5"W x 13 1/4"D • (45.5 x 61.3 x 33.6 cm) • 27.7 lbs. (12.6 kg)

    :rolleyes:

    In the user manual it say that they are rated 4-8 ohm and they'll give you a power range that the amp should be rated between.
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  • Schris22
    Schris22 Posts: 983
    edited July 2005
    bose doesn't tell you "recommended wattage" hmmm interesting but i still think those will do just fine. Unless the other guy wants to upgrade the amplification down the road which means preouts shuold be a priority...

    Chris
    Receiver: Onkyo TX-SR502-S
    DVD Player: Pioneer DV-578A-S
    Left and Right: R50
    Center: CS1
    Rear Center: R15
    Surrounds: R30
    Subwoofer: 10'' Dayton 100 Watt
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by marker
    If he's getting Bose, it doen't even matter. You couldn't tell the difference between the cheapest Aiwa or Koss and the best Krell or McIntosh.
    Ah, I was waiting for someone to say that...

    FWIW, I couldn't disagree with that statement more...
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited July 2005
    dollar to sound ratio. the Bose speakers will more than likely cost more than a good set of Polks. but if he's already made up his mind.. it's to late i guess.
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by Polkmaniac
    Ah, I was waiting for someone to say that...

    FWIW, I couldn't disagree with that statement more...

    hehehe i was waiting for that one myself. ;)

    i do like the bose 301's.
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited July 2005
    The only Bose speakers I've ever semi-liked the sound of were the 501 and 601 models. They weren't that bad at all. Too bad, Bose went away from that type of design.
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited July 2005
    I don't like the Bose sound, and they don't even belogn in the same discussion with Polk, so don't get me wrong - I don't like Bose.

    But, I disagree completely with the statement that you couldn't tell the difference with a cheapo receiver and an expensive receiver with those speakers. If you can't hear the difference between an Aiwa and a Krell, on any set of speakers, then you're in the wrong hobby.
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  • Schris22
    Schris22 Posts: 983
    edited July 2005
    so much hatred for bose!

    it radiates in the air...of Club Polk. I wonder who would hate Polk Audio stuff...Bose and Monster are not liked, I assume? in a lot of places....

    Chris
    Receiver: Onkyo TX-SR502-S
    DVD Player: Pioneer DV-578A-S
    Left and Right: R50
    Center: CS1
    Rear Center: R15
    Surrounds: R30
    Subwoofer: 10'' Dayton 100 Watt
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited July 2005
    i don't hate bose for their sound quality. For music, at low to moderate volumes I still like bose sound better than Klipsch (no offense to those owners). The reason why I don't like Bose and many others here don['t like Bose is because they flagrantly underestimate the intelligence of the consumer net and of their loyal customers.
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by aaharvel
    i don't hate bose for their sound quality. For music, at low to moderate volumes I still like bose sound better than Klipsch (no offense to those owners). The reason why I don't like Bose and many others here don

    Who needs specs, it's Bose, damnit, so just buy it!!!
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
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  • Mjr7531
    Mjr7531 Posts: 856
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by Schris22
    so much hatred for bose!

    it radiates in the air...of Club Polk. I wonder who would hate Polk Audio stuff...Bose and Monster are not liked, I assume? in a lot of places....

    Chris

    It's not so much hatred I suppose, well at least it is for their policy. I'm sure, if they cut their prices in half and released specs, they could be quite a respectable company, they have good ideas (No, not "their" patents) which could be great at well... A lower price.
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited July 2005
    BUMP!

    Bose ain't out of the woods yet! :D
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
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  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by RVJII

    Any thoughs or recommendations?

    the cheapest receiver that could be found from BB or CC IMHO.

    twin
    ***WAREMTAE***
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  • marker
    marker Posts: 1,084
    edited July 2005
    ^ +1
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