xbox 360

marcpam

does anyone know if the xbox 360 games will support 7.1 surround or will it be just 5.1?

bknauss

I believe I saw something saying it will just do 6.1 if you have a 6.1 channel DVD playing, and games will be 5.1.

I also believe I saw the PS3 might have the ability to do 7.1. I don't think it would ever be mandatory for the game makers to record everything in 7.1 though.

Either way, I don't see 7.1 being a big deal on either console.

Shizelbs

I can't see the sound engineers (if game producers use one) utilizing it at all, or enough to create much of a notable effect.

Mjr7531

Heck most games don't do a great job with 5.1 anyways, Soul Caliber 2 anyone?

aaharvel

First, there's no such thing as 7.1 discrete for the home market. Yet. The closest thing you have is Dolby EX which technically is 5.1 with a prologic- based rear center and DTS-ES DISCRETE which technically is a 6.1.

Logic-7 and Dolby Prologic IIx are quasi-7.1- meaning they decode incoming 2.0 or 5.1 signals into an analog 7.1- but it is not a totally discrete 7.1 source.

If the systems support 5.1- as i'm sure they would- then using Dolby Prologic IIx or Logic 7 on a receiver to decode it is the closest thing you can get to 7.1; and that's not a bad thing.

bknauss

There is the ability to have discrete 7.1 with any receiver that has 8 analog inputs.

aaharvel

double posted. sorry.

aaharvel

Originally posted by bknauss
There is the ability to have discrete 7.1 with any receiver that has 8 analog inputs.

well what's it called then? Dolby Digital EX Plus? DTS es Super Discrete? I'm not discrediting you per-say I would just like to know what it's called so I can trade my receiver in.

The closest thing to I have ever heard that is an original encoding process from the studios that comes close to 7.1 is DTS-ES discrete; and that's 6.1 spanned across two rear channels.

XBOX games or any games that are mixed in Dolby Digital or DTS is 5.1. No games have been mixed in discrete 7.1 yet because it doesn't exist- at least for consumer goods. Prologic IIx and Logic 7 do not count- they build upon the ORIGINAL 2.0, 5.1 or 6.1 mix to spread the sound to a quasi 7.1 setup aka the original prologic with a center speaker.

bknauss

I never said there's a format in 7.1. There definitely is the ability to record 7.1. And given the proper hardware and software, using 8 analog outputs from the source, you can get the discrete 7.1 signal onto a receiver that has 8 analog inputs.

Given the amount of ifs/buts/assumptions/candy/nuts I just listed, you can see why MS didn't really consider it, and why Sony is only claiming to have the ability to do it. That's nice Sony... go ahead and build a console with features most of us will never be able to use during this generation.

aaharvel

Originally posted by bknauss
I never said there's a format in 7.1. There definitely is the ability to record 7.1. And given the proper hardware and software, using 8 analog outputs from the source, you can get the discrete 7.1 signal onto a receiver that has 8 analog inputs.

Given the amount of ifs/buts/assumptions/candy/nuts I just listed, you can see why MS didn't really consider it, and why Sony is only claiming to have the ability to do it. That's nice Sony... go ahead and build a console with features most of us will never be able to use during this generation.

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