SDA SRS 2 Recloth

SCompRacer
SCompRacer Posts: 8,497
edited February 2014 in Vintage Speakers
I picked up a pair of SDA SRS 2’s that had a severe case of cat scratch fever. One might have got a little cat 'lovin on it too. The sides and grille covers on both speakers needed the cloth replaced. Aside from that, the Oak was in great shape and they sounded great. Well, actually better than great.
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,497
    edited June 2005
    The grilles are easy enough to re-cloth, but I found the SRS 2’s ¼” pressboard side panels are glued on. In some spots the glue was really heavy. Using wall board taping tools and long scrapers, I tried to shear the glue bond without breaking them. I got two off, while the other two cracked and/or broke.
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,497
    edited June 2005
    I couldn’t locate any ¼” pressboard locally and did not have access to a planer to thin some ½” pressboard, so I used ¼” MDF to replace the broken panels and it worked fine. I didn’t think ¼” or even 7/32” plywood would have been the best choice. I used construction adhesive to reattach the side panels.

    I believe they came out looking good.

    Oh, I did try a search to see if this had been posted before but forum restrictions won’t allow looking for SRS 2. SRS2 didn’t pull up much and SRS had volumes to sort through….

    EDIT: Here is a daylight shot. The other pic is about 1100 degrees Kelvin light.
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,497
    edited June 2005
    I used the grille cloth from Parts Express, which is a little thinner than the OEM cloth Polk used. I sprayed the side panels flat black before recovering so the light color of the wood wouldn't show through.
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  • Loud & Clear
    Loud & Clear Posts: 1,538
    edited June 2005
    Looks nice.

    Two Channel Setup:

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    DAC: Arcam irDac
    Source: iMac
    Remote Control: iPad Mini

    3.2 Home Theater Setup:

    Fronts: Klipsch RP-160M
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited June 2005
    Very nice work,I like the Oak a little better than the Walnut that I have..but,I'm not complaining...The SRS 2's do sound good...
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  • trubluluc
    trubluluc Posts: 2,067
    edited June 2005
    Can you share some of the details in how you attached the cloth?
    Did you use staples or glue?
    Where on the panels did you start and how did you wrap the corners?

    thanks!

    -Luc
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,497
    edited June 2005
    Originally posted by trubluluc
    Can you share some of the details in how you attached the cloth?


    -Luc

    Thanks for the kind words!

    I used glue, 3M Super 77 Multipurpose Spray adhesive.

    I first cut the fabric (oversize of course), then iron it from the back side. Rather than starch, I use Magic Sizing spray. It adds crisp body without the stiffness of starch. (I read that off the can). The wife suggested I use that on previous projects. I like to cut the oversize piece as accurate as possible so I can determine how much stretch I am applying by the amount of overlap as I move along.

    For the grill covers, I masked off the inside frame leaving around 1/2" to 5/8" at the edge and spray a couple of thin coats of adhesive on. The tape prevents getting sticky adhesive in the uncovered areas.

    I lay it on the cloth, and starting at one end (easier with a helper, harder alone) stretch it across at one end and fold it onto the adhesive. Then I go to the other end, stretch it across and lengthwise, and fold it into the adhesive. The Super '77 will allow a pull off and reattach if you need to. You can always apply more if you need it.

    Then I go to the middle side. Its best to weight the other side down or have someone hold it, stretch and fold onto the adhesive and work towards the ends. Repeat for the opposite side. I lay a long straight edge down and cut off the excess with a razor blade and remove the tape.

    Corners are tough. I end up with a double fold so as to not have a corner slip off. You can saturate the fabric with the adhesive, come back in a few minutes and using a scraper, flatten it down as best you can. If the adhesive is too wet, it won't stick. An iron will help loosen the adhesive and flatten it even more. I use an old, thin cloth between the iron and the grille cloth so I don't get the wifes iron sticky and hear about it later. Wax paper might work good for that too. The grille cloth is tight with no sags.
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,497
    edited June 2005
    For an added precaution, to prevent the cloth from ever slipping on the side panels, I ran a bead of Elmers Probond wood glue along the edge of the cloth and smeared it into the cloth and wood with my finger in a zip lock bag.
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  • trubluluc
    trubluluc Posts: 2,067
    edited June 2005
    I have a pair of sda's that I want to recover the grilles, you have encouraged me to give it a shot.

    Thanks Man!

    -Luc
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  • leftwinger57
    leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
    edited January 2014
    Ok, let me see if I get the progression steps. 1. try to remove side panels in one piece and then do not try to peel off old fabric but get new MDF to size then the amount of fabric needed to do all sides.2. sand down and clean exposed sides of the cabinets. Right now I have a can of Dan Tack fabric adhesive but concensous says go w/ the 3m super 77 then that's what I'll get. Is 1 can enough for all 4 sides and do you sray just the MDF let tack up and then apply fabric or does the fabric need a spritz also? Larry I saw your reply about speaker cloth and I'm not sure what you meant can you clarify what and where you got yours or have. Once all is sorted how much new fabric is needed and I noticed that ScompRacer did his grills and sides using fabric from P/E. Will this match my grill covers which I will not be touching.
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,497
    edited January 2014
    leftwinger57 wrote: »
    Ok, let me see if I get the progression steps. 1. try to remove side panels in one piece and then do not try to peel off old fabric but get new MDF to size then the amount of fabric needed to do all sides.2. sand down and clean exposed sides of the cabinets. Right now I have a can of Dan Tack fabric adhesive but concensous says go w/ the 3m super 77 then that's what I'll get. Is 1 can enough for all 4 sides and do you sray just the MDF let tack up and then apply fabric or does the fabric need a spritz also? Larry I saw your reply about speaker cloth and I'm not sure what you meant can you clarify what and where you got yours or have. Once all is sorted how much new fabric is needed and I noticed that ScompRacer did his grills and sides using fabric from P/E. Will this match my grill covers which I will not be touching.

    Upon review I see I was only able to get two off without breaking them. All depends on who was gluing I guess...the length of the tool to remove will help determine success. I removed the cloth on the two I got off in one piece and reused them.

    Not sure about the match since I had to totally re-cloth. As I mentioned the cloth from PE was thinner so maybe go with Larry's suggestion.

    Everybody will have their own method. I just used adhesive on the backside of side panels. I ran a bead of white glue along the edge after I finished for insurance the 3M wouldn't let loose. A good install relies on stretching the fabric enough so it stays flat and won't sag over time, but don't overstretch. If you are inconsistent with your stretching along the length and width, it can show up in the cloth pattern.

    The wife told me they make stretching tools but we didn't have any, so another pair of hands can make it easier.
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  • Indyaudio2
    Indyaudio2 Posts: 127
    edited January 2014
    Nice work!
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  • drumiv
    drumiv Posts: 171
    edited January 2014
    I think the cat got to the speakers I just picked up, looks like the same type of damage. I read here some guys are using the cloth from Magnepan. Anybody have contact info? Their webpage wasn't very helpful.
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  • iliveinyourhead
    iliveinyourhead Posts: 12
    edited January 2014
    looks great. What is everyone doing to get the emblems back into the correct spot?
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  • j1mmy
    j1mmy Posts: 95
    edited February 2014
    Great job
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,761
    edited February 2014
    j1mmy wrote: »
    Great job

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