U.S Grand Prix
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Pretty crazy happenings in Indy today. Only 6 cars are racing because all the other cars pulled in the pits before the race started. Their Michelin tires were found to be unsafe and the FIA wouldn't make any concessions to let them use different tires. The crowd is booing like crazy and debris is being thrown. Amazing!
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"In an incident that could damage beyond repair Formula 1's image in the United States - and perhaps worldwide - the 14 cars equipped with Michelin tires parked on the formation lap of the USGP at Indy this Sunday.
Under the booing of 100,000+ paying customers, only the cars of Ferrari, Jordan and Minardi started as the red lights went off. The Renault, McLaren, Toyota, BAR, Sauber and Red Bull teams withdrew from competition.
The letter from Michelin said it was not safe to race under this configuration," said Renault team boss Flavio Briatore. "We cannot put our drivers safety at risk.
"We didn't have a choice," added BAR sporting director Gil de Ferran. "Unfortunately, it was impossible to race, and it was a decision that was actually outside our hands.
"It's a very sad, hard situation. I've never lived anything like this in all my career in racing," he added.
"A chicane was necessary for the race to take place," McLaren team principal Ron Dennis summarized."
UNBELIEVEABLE Max Mosley has single handedly ruined F1:rolleyes:Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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I guess I made the right choice then. I was offered free tix but choose instead to spend the day with my family.
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An extremely sad day in motorsports, period. That, more than likely, put an end to F1 in the U.S., but at the very least in Indy.
Well done Michelin, well done F1, just when it looked as though F1 was getting a respectable following in the U.S., then BAM, ruined. It would be in the best interest of everybody involved, if they refunded everyone's cash, not very likely though.
Anyways, WOOO HOOOO, GO FERRARI !!!!!!!!
It would of been a race for third place anyways.
Let's hope that they'll do the right thing and save the US Grand Prix for us fans."SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
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Big part of the blame goes to Ferrari as well. All the other teams agreed they would only race if chicane was put in, Ferrari practically said no to it. After this Minardi and Jordan backed out and "raced" with Ferrari.Originally posted by ND13
Anyways, WOOO HOOOO, GO FERRARI !!!!!!!!
Michelin is to blame but in the end Ferrari chose the points and told the fans to go screw themselves. The sad thing is the 6 car race was still more exciting than NASCAR and the likes. Thank god there was a trans am race on later that day. -
The chicane would have made it dangerous for the Bridgestone shod cars. The cars were set up to race on the track they had practiced on and qualified on. I didn't hear any of the post race interviews of the driver's blaming Ferrari. It sounds as though the choice to not make it a non-points race, by F1, is more the problem. The people who were at the race could have gave a **** whether points were awarded or not. They just wanted a race. All and all it was just handled extremely poor, on all fronts.
Michelin should have had ample time to come up with a remedy.
It was a clusterf@#$, that hurt, not only F1 and Michelin, but the city of Indianapolis, the vendors, the speedway,and the fans that came from all over the world to see a race at the greatest track in the history of motorsports. I doubt very seriously that even if F1 comes back to the U.S., it will occur in Indy."SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
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Maybe that it is for the US race fans but worldwide that's a huge overstatement when there are tracks like Nurburgring, Spa, Monza, Le Mans out there. Especially considering the track is based on oval layout.Originally posted by ND13
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Originally posted by Sami
Maybe that it is for the US race fans but worldwide that's a huge overstatement when there are tracks like Nurburgring, Spa, Monza, Le Mans out there. Especially considering the track is based on oval layout.
Not in layout, in historical importance and heritage. It's where open wheel racing got it's start."SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
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Interesting. Le Mans had the 1906 GP. Indy wasn't built until 1911.Originally posted by ND13
Not in layout, in historical importance and heritage. It's where open wheel racing got it's start. -
Originally posted by Sami
Interesting. Le Mans had the 1906 GP. Indy wasn't built until 1911.
Okay the first GP was in 1906 buthttp://www.indianapolismotorspeedway.com/history/ ,
IMS was built in 1909, the first 500 was in 1911. The point is, almost everyone in racing wants to win at Indy. Look how many racers form different series come to race at the 500. I personally think that the Nurburgring is the finest in the world to race on.
The first 24 hour Le Mans race was 1923. What was the first race there? Just curious, I like race trivia."SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto_racing
It would seem though that the 1906 GP was not on the Le Mans track but on the public roads around the city of Le Mans.
http://www.racingcircuits.net/France/LeMans06.html
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Originally posted by Sami
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto_racing
It would seem though that the 1906 GP was not on the Le Mans track but on the public roads around the city of Le Mans.
http://www.racingcircuits.net/France/LeMans06.html
Below the track layout you can see links to the different era track layouts.
Cool links. Nice to see how the circuit evolved. And wow!!, the 1906 circuit was over 64 miles. I guess that would keep the monotony factor down."SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
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That's how racing started, on public roads. The lack of (paved?) roads in US lead to racing on horse tracks and that's how ovals were born. At least that's the impression I have been on. Makes sense but could also be an urban legend.Originally posted by ND13
Cool links. Nice to see how the circuit evolved. And wow!!, the 1906 circuit was over 64 miles. I guess that would keep the monotony factor down. -
Originally posted by Sami
That's how racing started, on public roads. The lack of (paved?) roads in US lead to racing on horse tracks and that's how ovals were born. At least that's the impression I have been on. Makes sense but could also be an urban legend.
I think you're right about the horse tracks."SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
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http://encarta.msn.com/text_761559916__1/Automobile_Racing.html
"Although Americans participated in and became important sponsors of early road races both in the United States and in Europe, U.S. enthusiasts favored closed-circuit racing almost from the outset. The benefits included better spectator safety, improved course management, and the ability to charge admission. The horse racing tracks that served as the earliest closed-course automobile-racing sites in the United States gradually yielded to specialized dirt tracks, followed by paved ovals. The first American oval-track race occurred at the Rhode Island State Fairgrounds in Cranston in 1896, with a winning average speed of 26.8 mph (43.1 km/h). A major milestone for U.S. racing was the opening of the 2.5-mi (4-km) brick-surfaced Indianapolis Motor Speedway in Indiana in 1909." -
Hey I'm a Polkazoid now, how 'bout that."SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
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