Receiver Question
JWBurns
Posts: 38
Hello Club Polk!
Currently building my HT. When my roommate moved out, he left me his Kenwood VR-716 Receiver and the five speakers and sub that went with it. The receiver alone is worth about $100.
I did some research... Turns out, this this puts out 100 watts per channel (6). Pretty impressive!
Now I have also been looking to replace it with a higher end Denon 3801 or HK unit, obviously units which costs many times over the one I currently have.
My question - Are receivers basicly about watts per channel or am I missing the bigger picture? My HT will be used for about 50% TV and 50% Movies.
Tell me why I should pay more for the Denon or HK units...
Got two RTi8's and a CSI5 Center. Will add a nice sub and surrounds soon...
Currently building my HT. When my roommate moved out, he left me his Kenwood VR-716 Receiver and the five speakers and sub that went with it. The receiver alone is worth about $100.
I did some research... Turns out, this this puts out 100 watts per channel (6). Pretty impressive!
Now I have also been looking to replace it with a higher end Denon 3801 or HK unit, obviously units which costs many times over the one I currently have.
My question - Are receivers basicly about watts per channel or am I missing the bigger picture? My HT will be used for about 50% TV and 50% Movies.
Tell me why I should pay more for the Denon or HK units...
Got two RTi8's and a CSI5 Center. Will add a nice sub and surrounds soon...
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Receivers' watts per channel are not all rated the same because there is no standard for rating. This allows manufacturers to alter the conditions in which they measure the watts per channel so make it seem as though the receiver is more powerful. They will often quote the peak power, measure at only 1 frequency (often 1khz), or just **** the ratings. The H/K and Denon units are less ****, and will be much more powerful then the Kenwood receiver even though they are rated the same.
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"I did some research... Turns out, this this puts out 100 watts per channel (6). Pretty impressive!"
The Kenwood may state 100 watts perchannel, but i guarantee you with ALL channels driven simultaneously from 20hz-20khz- it's not pushing anymore than 30 watts per channel- and that's on a good day. Kenwood receivers have no current in their amp stages. This usually yields to bright sound and no headroom.
The Denon or H/K rated HALF of what that Kenwood claims would destroy the Kenwood in sound quality AND in power delivery. If you want major brand names that are honest to even conservative with their power ratings: Denon and especially H/K are the two best imo. Imo even major brands such as Yamaha, Onkyo, Sony ES and Pioneer b.s. on their wattage ratings as well - just not as bad as say a Kenwood or regular Sony receiver.
In the end it depends on the speakers you have and the kind of sound that you like. Most Polks put out a neutral sound- If you like hometheater AND music, and like a balance between warm to neutral sound- for the money i say go for the H/K. If you want a strictly neutral sound and are focusing on hometheater more than music, the Denon would be ideal.
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Excellent responses guys!
Can you guys now help a newbie out the two receivers I have in mind...
HK AVR 635 - HK DPR 1005
Both are rated about the same, but the 1005 is a "Digital" receiver.
What would the differences be? -
at the price of the 635 you could buy a lesser one and an amp.
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Look on http://www.jr.com/JRSectionView.process?N=10946+400876&Ne=400000#Brand and get the 435 and a sep amp. BTW, what kind of speakers are you using, that will make a huge difference on what you'll need powerwise.$584 for the 435 is a bargain. Hell that would be good for a refurb.
No shipping charge right now also. Don't be scared of refurbs, either."SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE" -
I got two RTi8's and a CSI5 Center. Will add a nice sub and surrounds soon...
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You could probably get away with just the HK 435 for now. It has plenty of high current watts for your needs. A seperate amp can be added anytime in the future if you see the need or upgrade speakers."SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE" -
yup ND's right. or if you want to save an extra $230 on top of that get a 235. IT's $349 at J&R.com right now, has free shipping and it's a certified Polk dealer- so the warranty will be good. If you are looking to get separate amps- I say get the 235. It has pre-outs just like the 435 does. If you just want the receiver- for your rti8's the 435 would prob. be better for the money. Even though I went the 235 and separates route- the 435 only way would kick major **** as well.
Fronts- rti-4
Center- csi-3
Sides- f/x 300i dipole
Rears- f/x 300i bipole
Receiver/Pre/Pro- H/K 235
2ch. Amp- Adcom GFA-5300
5ch. Amp- Adcom GFA-7300 -
You guys running a 3ch amp to power the Center and two fronts?
Which amp would you guys reccomend?
Any info on the differences between the HK digital versus the AV receivers?
