Probs w/ MTX...time to upgrade?

swerve

Originally posted by 1996blackmax
I'm glad you found something that you liked. In the end that is all that matters .

no you are wrong.

in the end nothing matters... because there is nothing left to do in the end. when i die i hope it doesn't matter what kind of amp i had. therefore in the end nothing matters.

because the end means you have exhausted something and if it truely was the end you wouldn't care for it anymore. therefore it is not the end and he will be looking to upgrade soon. once he has exhausted his interest for car audio the end will come and nothing will matter.

thanks,
adam

unrealii

Originally posted by swerve
no you are wrong.

in the end nothing matters... because there is nothing left to do in the end. when i die i hope it doesn't matter what kind of amp i had. therefore in the end nothing matters.

because the end means you have exhausted something and if it truely was the end you wouldn't care for it anymore. therefore it is not the end and he will be looking to upgrade soon. once he has exhausted his interest for car audio the end will come and nothing will matter.

thanks,
adam

HAHA, don't worry about me. It is far from the end...but this amp is here to stay for a while. The only thing that is coming to an end is my disposable income I just graduated college, so if I can make something last a good 4-5 years; then when I have MORE money to indulge, you damn well know what I am going to do Its only the begining...this amp doesn't fit on my old amp rack at the top of the trunk, so I am going to build a nice rack which fits in the spare tire well on top of the spare. This will be a lot cleaner than my previous installation..no wires showing, nothing. Just a nice plexiglass window to see the amp, which can be covered by carpet for a 100% stealth look. Sub box is going to be rebuilt to fit into the side and blend in with the trunk. I might also do some sound deadening too, not sure yet.

Anyways, I think when 1996blackmax meant in the end, its just the end of my amp search

Thanks for the help everyone. I will be taking pics of this project.

1996blackmax

Originally posted by swerve
no you are wrong.

in the end nothing matters... because there is nothing left to do in the end. when i die i hope it doesn't matter what kind of amp i had. therefore in the end nothing matters.

because the end means you have exhausted something and if it truely was the end you wouldn't care for it anymore. therefore it is not the end and he will be looking to upgrade soon. once he has exhausted his interest for car audio the end will come and nothing will matter.

thanks,
adam

:rolleyes: Dude, you are wrong . In the end everything you have done here on Earth (the way you have lived your life) matters, a whole lot actually. Also the end here is just the beggining .

unrealii I was talking to you, and you got my point .

exalted512

actually, i dont think anything adam does will make a difference towards anyone or anything...and he should give all his speakers to me
-Cody

MacLeod

Originally posted by exalted512
actually, i dont think anything adam does will make a difference towards anyone or anything...and he should give all his speakers to me
-Cody

Thats true. Isnt it time for you to change speakers again?

exalted512

nah, its time for amps. Speakers are going to stay the same for quite a while. I'm actually going to start saving for the amps next month. Hopefully Ill have them by March with all my Batcaps and alternator and new wiring etc.
-Cody

MacLeod

You still going with US Amps?

Ive heard muttering on other forums that Batcaps kinda suck. They keep dying early.

exalted512

Yea, I'm going to go with a modified ax-2000, which is a 2 channel amp. 2400x1 bridged at 4 ohms. This does present a problem though. My subs are dual 2 ohm so they can only be wired together in a 2 or 8 ohm configuration, which is why its being modified to do its rated power at 2 ohms:D
The local dealer wants $1600 for that amp. Itll probably be $2k or something to get it modified, most likely less. 1800 or so. I'm not positive what I'm going to do with my front stage though. The plan is either get the tu600 and be done with it or get the tu4360 and the tu300 and run everything fully active. The latter of the two costs $378 more. All are tube amps, the difference is the tu600 does 190x2 and the 4360 does 75x4 and the 300 does 100x2. I'm kind of leaning towards the fully active setup, but I'm not quite sure. I'd be running the mids off of the 300 and the midranges and tweets off the 4360...decisions decisions.

As far as batcaps, I've only heard a couple people say they had their's die prematurely. I want to get a couple and see what happens.
-Cody

MacLeod

Dont their tube amps put out like 12 watts per channel? Ive never heard of a 190x2 tube amp.

exalted512

its a vacuum tube hybrid. Joel has one in his car
-Cody

MacLeod

Ill just stick to solid state. Much cheaper!

But then again, nothing Tru makes is "cheaper"!

exalted512

usamps has the merlin and the IS series along with the AX(totl) lines
-Cody

MacLeod

Im still quite happy with my Crossfires.

I will eventually upgrade once I get bored and Id really like to have all Xtants under my seat! Only $550 each!

Also, I really like the Polk amps.

swerve

Originally posted by MacLeod
Also, I really like the Polk amps.

who else here has one besides me?

lol i'm just curious because i never see anyone really mention they have them. people always ask then they go buy (insert random brand here).


polk amps are well built... i liked mine.

-adam

MacLeod

Theyre very well built and cleanly exceed their power ratings. But the selling point for me is their crossover.

When they first came out I kinda poo-poo'd them but now I think they rule!

unrealii

If not before, you guys are probably going to want to kill me after this post. It just hit me that what if goodguys is able to repair my mtx and make it all good again. It might be a waste to only get $200 (that's what they are going for on ebay) for a very versitile amp. I am tempted to run tweeters, rear mids, and sub off the eclipse, and bridge the 4 channel part of the mtx to run the front mids. If not, use the good guys store credit to buy a 2 or 4 channel amp to do this. I dont think I will ever be happy until I bi-amp the front, and have rears at the same time.

unrealii

Originally posted by MacLeod
Theyre very well built and cleanly exceed their power ratings. But the selling point for me is their crossover.

When they first came out I kinda poo-poo'd them but now I think they rule!

I finally demo'ed the c400.4 on a set of focals. I put it up against the jl 300/4 and I had a very hard time telling the difference between the two.

MacLeod

Thats because there isnt any.

The only difference is the JL is fully regulated and costs $100 more.

Thats about it. Shows ya just how good that 400.4 is!

exalted512

Originally posted by MacLeod
Shows ya just how good that 400.4 is!

i prefer "shows ya how bad the JL is," but you know me-always the optimist
-Cody

unrealii

Hey, one last question.

I shouldn't have a problem if I use my old mtx and bridge the 4 channels to 2 to run my front mids. I wont be running a sub. That should be ok, right?

Apparently good guys says there were a few solders were loose. I guess all they did was resolder. I dont know if I should trust this thing or not. I want bi amped fronts with amp power on the rear.

MacLeod

Not a big fan of bridging 4 channels.

Distortion tends to TRIPLE! Plus youll be running your amp at 100% all the time. youd be better off bi-amping your speakers.

unrealii

Oh, I am bi amping. I have 2 5channel amps to play with I didn't plan on keeping the mtx, but I want bi amp with rear fill and this mtx comes out the cheapest solution. I already have a mounting place & bracket at the top of my trunk. Eclipse goes in the spare tire well on top of the spare...everything fits perfectly.

I was thinking of running the tweets and rear mids off the eclipse, then the front mids bridged off the mtx so that they will get more power than the other speakers. Tweeters are more efficient, so the power difference shouldn't be a negative factor. My head unit has an auto config & auto eq which will balance everything out in the end.

Otherwise I can run all fronts and sub off the eclipse, then the rear 2 on the mtx.

MacLeod

Remind me, what kind of speakers are you running?

unrealii

DB3000 tweeter (front dash)
DB6510 mid range (front door)
DB5510 mid range (rear door)

MacLeod

I dunno dude. That just seems like an awful lot of hassle.

If you wanted 2 amps you shoulda went with a good 4 channel and a sub amp.

But either way, I think you should just keep the Eclipse and run your system off that. But thats just me. I like to keep things simple.

unrealii

The mtx would be extremely easy to take care of. Thats why I am considering hanging on to it. All I would need is extra 4ga wire, distro block, and an rca cable. Hell if I wire the rears up to that and buy a switch, I could turn on and off the rears whenever I want.

I dunno, it seems that I am too afraid to get rid of a good amp, but at the same time not trusting it. Guess I'll know on tuesday when I get it back. I'll have gg bench test it.

MacLeod

Why not just go with front speakers only?

At least try it. Before you do anyting with the MTX, how bout bi-ampin the front speakers and leaving the rear unpowered for a while. Keep it like that for a couple of days while you dial in the tuning of the front. After you have it dialed in and have listened to it for a bit see if you dont like it better.

Nothing will change other than the soundstage will all be in front of you and there should be a little more detail in your music.

audiobliss

Yeah, try that; I'll bet you'll like it.

unrealii

I tried a front stage a couple of days ago. Only difference is that the tweeters sounded more crisp because of the lack of a passive xover. Guess I'll drive around for a few more days and see. I have had yet to try an active front and rear stage.

MacLeod

Originally posted by unrealii
I tried a front stage a couple of days ago. Only difference is that the tweeters sounded more crisp because of the lack of a passive xover. Guess I'll drive around for a few more days and see. I have had yet to try an active front and rear stage.

Huh?