Unable to get the .1 in the 5.1

Polkapops
Polkapops Posts: 267
Okay - I picked up the SACD version of Brothers in Arms the other day and when I use the 'Auto' function on my AVR-3805 to play it in surround, I get the .1 bass but one or two of the other instruments are left out. And when I play it in EXT IN, I don't get the .1 bass but everything else comes through great - except for one very annoying problem - It sounds like the center channel is getting too much bass and it produces a horrible buzzing sound. On other SACD's I do not get the .1 bass when using EXT IN but I figured I could live with that because I do not experience any buzzing from the center channel. I checked & double checked the connections on several occasions in the past and double checked all the settings on my player and processor. Anyone have any ideas what may be the problem? Appreciate any help, Thanks,
Dan
HT & Music System:
Receiver - Denon AVR-3805
DVD/SACD Player - Denon DVD-2900
Outlaw 770 amp
Polk LSi 15's up front
Polk LSiC center
Polk LSi F/X surrounds
SVS 16-46 PC+ Subwoofer
Sony Wega KDF-50WE655
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited June 2005
    That's strange. Could it be that the mix was originally a 5.0 soundtrack? I know some DTS CD's that do this. Sorry I couldn't be of anymore help.

    EDIT- nice system btw. how is that Denon (as a Pre/Pro) working out for you?
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited June 2005
    go into your on-screen menu.

    Input Setup -> Ext. in SW Level -> +15db. If that doesn't do it, you have a bad connection or it's not setup properly in your DVD player menu.
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  • Polkapops
    Polkapops Posts: 267
    edited June 2005
    I couldn't be happier with the Denon as a pre/pro - well, I take that back.......If I could only figure out why I'm not getting the total output from my SACD's.......

    HT & Music System:
    Receiver - Denon AVR-3805
    DVD/SACD Player - Denon DVD-2900
    Outlaw 770 amp
    Polk LSi 15's up front
    Polk LSiC center
    Polk LSi F/X surrounds
    SVS 16-46 PC+ Subwoofer
    Sony Wega KDF-50WE655
  • Polkapops
    Polkapops Posts: 267
    edited June 2005
    Thanks Toxis - But already tried that - also spent a week going through the player's set up last night........frustrating as hell I tell ya........What's strange is that I don't get ANY .1 when in the EXT IN mode, but I will get it when I go through AUTO on the processor and the unit selects analog (of course), so then I get the sub to fire but some other part of the recording gets lost (no horns or extremely faint guitar etc.) it varies from disc to disc. Very strange....
    HT & Music System:
    Receiver - Denon AVR-3805
    DVD/SACD Player - Denon DVD-2900
    Outlaw 770 amp
    Polk LSi 15's up front
    Polk LSiC center
    Polk LSi F/X surrounds
    SVS 16-46 PC+ Subwoofer
    Sony Wega KDF-50WE655
  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited June 2005
    Originally posted by Polk-a-pops
    also spent a week going through the player's set up last night.......

    Talk about cramming alot into a day..........that much work would exhaust me too!:D :D
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    2 Channel Thorens TD 318 Grado ZF1, SACD/CD Marantz 8260, Soundstream/Krell DAC1, Audio Mirror PP1, Odyssey Stratos, ADS L-1290, ICs-DIY Twisted , Speaker-Raymond Cable
  • JDSMOKE
    JDSMOKE Posts: 31
    edited June 2005
    Polk-a-pops
    Since I'm not familiar with your Denon receiver I will just let you know what works with my set up. When I run My Denon 955s (DVD-2910) with SACD’s I use the multi channel input on the Yamaha RXV-2500. If the SACD does not have a .5 part then my sub sits and does nothing. If it does have the .5 it sounds great. If I turn off the mulit channel in and run thought coax (digital) set to auto then I get the full breakout but now the Receiver is decoding a 2 channel input into a 5.1 output. My understanding is that with SACDS the only way to get 5.1 on a SACD is through the Multi channel output. This is why the settings on the DVD player are important.
  • Polkapops
    Polkapops Posts: 267
    edited June 2005
    Thanks JD - But I just discovered the problem. Did some swapping of cables and discovered the SW cable between the player and the processor was faulty. So now I get the .1 (yay!!!) but I still get a buzzing from the center channel at higher volumes. Going to address that in another thread.
    As for getting the 5.1 from SACD's, if you have cables designated for each channel (FR, FL, C, SR, SL & SW) running from the player to the processor and use EXT IN on the processor, the signal is pulled directly from the player and not processed through the amp. That way you get the 'full mix' as intended directly from the source.
    The thing that threw me through this whole ordeal was that I purchased all new cables when I put the system together, so I was ruling them out.......All better now though!:D :cool: :p
    HT & Music System:
    Receiver - Denon AVR-3805
    DVD/SACD Player - Denon DVD-2900
    Outlaw 770 amp
    Polk LSi 15's up front
    Polk LSiC center
    Polk LSi F/X surrounds
    SVS 16-46 PC+ Subwoofer
    Sony Wega KDF-50WE655