Ever notice...

steveinaz
steveinaz Posts: 19,538
edited June 2005 in Speakers
...how good your speakers sound outside? No walls reflecting or interacting?

Had mine both in the garage (door open) and on the back patio, they sound fantastic, almost "Maggie-like."
Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited June 2005
    No
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited June 2005
    All I know is that when I auditioned my SDA's in a garage with the door opened or closed, they didn't sound near as good as in the house.
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    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,204
    edited June 2005
    Sometimes I notice this phenomenon when I’m in another room. Sometimes I swear the singer/group is playing in my listening room. Obviously the sound staging cues are not present, but on some material it sounds so good. I guess it lets the music “breathe” so to speak.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • BrentMcGhee
    BrentMcGhee Posts: 548
    edited June 2005
    what you are hearing is what i like to call the double boxed effect.

    There is so much that goes into desinging a speaker box to tune a speaker just the right way, but however when we get them home we are just taking all of that research and design and just sticking it in another larger box (the room)

    I dont think most people have ever really thought about it this way (or maybe they have).

    What you are hearing when they are outside is what the speaker actually sounds like becasue it is not being influenced by being put into another box that was not specifically designed for the speaker.
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited June 2005
    I would imagine it being close to an anechoic chamber, especially the outside scenario. It just improves everything; tight bass, airy midrange and treble. Cool.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • Skynut
    Skynut Posts: 2,967
    edited June 2005
    Maybe I will set up the surround outside someday. Like a drive in.:D
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited June 2005
    I have the HT in a room w/ wall to wall windows. I open them all up for parties and kick it. It's really cool, 'cause it sounds so good. Even from very far away, it comes thru crystal clear. I am always getting comments, makes my head swell...;)
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited June 2005
    Taking this concept a bit further, would a system sound "better" in a much larger room than in a smaller one?
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited June 2005
    I'm an advocate of the small room / near field scenario.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,204
    edited June 2005
    Originally posted by RuSsMaN
    I'm an advocate of the small room / near field scenario.

    Cheers,
    Russ

    Overall I'm an advocate for that type of listening. Critical listening in a very large room just doesn't get it done. To many waves going every which way. How's that for a scientific analysis.

    Already started the weekend festivities and I'm rocking out (de-compressing) listening to the mighty Zep!

    H9 :D
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited June 2005
    I'm an advocate of the small room / near field scenario.

    Whew. Thought I was the only one who felt that way.

    I did an experiment one day and moved my entire 2-channel system into a larger room to hear the differences. I thought a larger room was going to allow my speakers to "stretch out" and really give me a whole new dimension of sound, but I liked it better in the smaller room.

    IMO, in near field listening the vocalist appears to be singing to me only, but farther away, it seems the artist is singing to an audience. So near field seems more intimate and engaging. I don't feel like a spectator, but an active participant.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited June 2005
    Even my bookshelves sound great outside, just something about the absolute zero reflection that makes the soundstage incredibly realistic. Neat stuff. There has to be no wind though; wind screws it up.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited June 2005
    Originally posted by Zero
    I haven’t heard many, and I know there is no way I can afford them.

    Come on up, I"ll learn ya;)
  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited June 2005
    Originally posted by Zero
    I haven’t heard many, and I know there is no way I can afford them.
    Aren't you due to start cycling through a few systems right about now? ;)
    comment comment comment comment. bitchy.
  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited June 2005
    I like to listen to music out side in my hot tub. I first installed the speakers near the tub on the outside walls of the home. The sound really sucked with all the reflections off the clapboards.

    As an experiment I located the two speakers on trees about 10' high 20' apart. Both speakers are about 25' away and centered from the hot tub. The back of the hot tub is up agaist the clapboards. The sound stage was amazing. Most recordings sounded more life like and real, especially jazz club recordings and vocials. What was wrong however was that I couldn't play the music very loud due to neigbhors and lack of amp power. The distortion would increase before my desire for louder music ended. Also the bass was very lacking. The bass was solved with a powered sub protected from the animals and rain.

    The outside music was and still is a very interesting sound enviroment. I plan to up grade the amp and speakers soon. However, the addition of a cold beer and the hot tub experience may have affected my judgement. But then again who cares if it works.