LOL, Sony get owned!!

ledhed
ledhed Posts: 1,088
edited April 2024 in Clubhouse Archives
Couldnt resist a little outrageous comparison test. Found some old sony surrounds in the basement (3" fullrange-paper cone), sat them on top of my polk rt5s and did a A/B comparison. Couldnt help but laugh-sometimes you don't appreciate what you have till you hear something this awful. sad part is-my sister said they both sounded "OK" what is wrong with women?
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited June 2005
    Have you ever noticed that most women can't hear that high frequency tone that tv's emit? Makes me think that they can't hear the highs very well. CFRIZZ, please notice I said most, no offense was intended.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited June 2005
    Actually, several studies that I've read show that women actually have better hearing than men...I can't think of any links off hand, but I know I've read this in several places before. If I'm FOS, someone let me know.....

    But then again, there's a difference in having good hearing and knowing what to listen for, and the two aren't necessarily linked...
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited June 2005
    But then again, there's a difference in having good hearing and knowing what to listen for, and the two aren't necessarily linked... [/B][/QUOTE]

    True!!!
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
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  • Tide
    Tide Posts: 154
    edited June 2005
    It's weird, but I often can't hear a thing my wife says. Or, so she says. If I hear her.
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited June 2005
    Originally posted by ND13
    ... that high frequency tone that tv's emit? ...

    I hate that tone! We had some guests last week, and I "sensed" very early in the morning that a TV was on and I couldn't fall back asleep.
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited June 2005
    Originally posted by PolkThug
    I hate that tone! We had some guests last week, and I "sensed" very early in the morning that a TV was on and I couldn't fall back asleep. [/QUOTE

    I KNOW!!! I can't even have a tv on anywhere close to the same room I'm listening to music in. I hardly ever watch music DVD's because of that sound. I have the Led Zep dvd that came out a couple of years ago and it drives me crazy that I can't enjoy it the way I should. I'm a hard-core LZ fan.
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    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited June 2005
    actually women are more sensitive to high frequencies... if you have a bright system she will think it is ear bleeding..
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited June 2005
    Originally posted by faster100
    actually women are more sensitive to high frequencies... if you have a bright system she will think it is ear bleeding..

    HMMM!! Must just be the women in my life. And most would probably consider my system on the bright side, but that's whats I likes.
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    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited June 2005
    Hey! I am a woman and I hear that tone too. Ever since I was a kid. I didn't know other people could too. Ha. I always imagined I had bionic hearing.
    I know what you guys mean though. My roommate can't tell the difference between My LSIs and my old Rti100s. She would be happy if everything were in mono.:D
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited June 2005
    Now that I've got the equipment, I am going to analyze what frequencies the "tv tone" is. Stay tuned...
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited June 2005
    Originally posted by PolkThug
    Now that I've got the equipment, I am going to analyze what frequencies the "tv tone" is. Stay tuned...

    Yes, Very interested where it falls in the freqs..
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    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited June 2005
    ND13, no offense taken. I would almost be inclined to believe you. However, PM spoke the absolute truth.

    It's not so much that I have such a keen ear, it's that I was raised in a musical household.

    My father was a classical violinist, my mother sang, one brother played the piano & my other brother has a full size electric organ that he plays like there is no tomorrow. I took a few lessons in guitar when I was a kid.

    There is no way that I can't know some differences in sound & music! My great ambition when I got a job was to get a good stereo setup. I've been working on that for over 20 yrs now! LOL!

    However, my brothers fiancee, thinks that Bose sounds just as good as the LSI 7's that I hooked them up with!

    Fellas, if you want your little girls to growup to appreciate good sound & how to tell the difference, make sure you raise them that way!

    "CFRIZZ, please notice I said most, no offense was intended."

    Originally posted by Polkmaniac
    Actually, several studies that I've read show that women actually have better hearing than men...I can't think of any links off hand, but I know I've read this in several places before. If I'm FOS, someone let me know.....

    But then again, there's a difference in having good hearing and knowing what to listen for, and the two aren't necessarily linked...
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited June 2005
    CFRIZZ,

    My parents are the same way. My mom sings, dad plays bass and guitar. I used to run soundboards for a couple of bands, when I was in the Air Force. I also took a few guitar lessons when I was a kid, but sports took a priority back then. Wish I would have followed thru with the guitar....
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    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited June 2005
    My wife thinks the music sounds just as good in our car as it does on my system at home. But that's due more to a lack of understand of what 'good' is and not knowing what to listen for.

    However, she can hear things in my music that most people cannot.

    Example, I've got all the One O'Clock Lab Band (jazz band at UNT in Denton, Tx - probably the top jazz band at a college level in the world, def in top five). Anyway, their Lab '92 album has "Fingers" (a Thad Jones piece I think). About 3/4 of the way through the song, the sax section plays fairly short piece (maybe 32 bars, all playing the same piece, but playing different parts of the harmony. Then there's a piano solo, and then they go back to the sax section and they play the same piece again, but in double time (pretty freakin' cool actually). Well, during this you can hear the keys hitting the pads on their instruments, kind of neat. Most people I have shared this music with never heard or noticed this, and most can't even hear it when I point it out. The first time she heard the song, she was like "what's that clicking sound in the background - that's annoying"

    Of course, she had no clue what she was listening to, but the point is that she heard it...
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited June 2005
    I think it's more of a person to person thing. All I know is my wife and my mother can't hear the "tv tone" even when concentrating on it.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited June 2005
    My wife tells me that since I have taught her "what to listen for" she can hear the differences, even between cables. She immediately noticed the Energy C-9's and liked them far better than the Athena's---she said "your old speakers were too high-pitched." That would be bright for us audiophile types....
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited June 2005
    I know I can't take bright. It's like nails on a chalk board to me.
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited June 2005
    To me Infinity and JBL's are what I consider "too bright". Maybe with the JBL's it's the titanium tweeter. When I said bright, I meant being able to hear crisp clean highs, not hiss from some poor recording. I'm talking maybe a little tweak of the treble off of flat.
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  • weavercr
    weavercr Posts: 289
    edited June 2005
    quote:
    Originally posted by Polkmaniac
    Actually, several studies that I've read show that women actually have better hearing than men...I can't think of any links off hand, but I know I've read this in several places before. If I'm FOS, someone let me know.....

    But then again, there's a difference in having good hearing and knowing what to listen for, and the two aren't necessarily linked...

    Most of the hearing studies I have read, Men and woman start off life about equal in the hearing department, but men lose ther hearing in the HF range earlier in life than women. women lag by about 10 years, then we are back to near equal in our 70's.

    Wife going to college to become an RN, she blasted me with these studies because I like it louder than her.
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  • jcaut
    jcaut Posts: 1,849
    edited June 2005
    Originally posted by PolkThug
    Now that I've got the equipment, I am going to analyze what frequencies the "tv tone" is. Stay tuned...

    How are you planning on measuring it? Just curious.

    It should be about 16kHz, on a regular 'ol interlaced-scan TV.

    Actually it should be 15750 Hz. What you're hearing is the "sound" of the CRT drawing and redrawing 525 lines on the screen, 30 times per second (525 * 30 = 15750). You shouldn't be able to hear a progressive scan TV because the frequency should be too high, since each line is scanned 60 times per second. Can you hear your computer monitor? (assuming CRT)

    Jason
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