any instructions on how to make a basic passive pre-amp?

faster100
faster100 Posts: 6,124
edited May 2005 in 2 Channel Audio
help me out, what parts are invloved to make a simple volume controled single input/output passive pre? this will be for the sonic impact amp setup i have... Thanks


parts needed?

project box
what kind of volume pot? and what ohm? 5k 10k, 100k ohm?
any resisters involved?

where to find insulated input rca jacks?

Thanks a million for any help
MY HT RIG:
Sherwood p-965
Sherwood sd871 dvd
Rotel 1075 amp x5
LSI15 mains
LsiC center
LSIfx surround backs
Lsi7 side surrounds
SVS pb12/plus2


2 Channel Rig:

nad 1020 Pre-amp
Rotel 1080 stereo amp
Polk sda 2B
kenwood grunt Tuner
realistic lab 450 TT
Signal cable IC
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited May 2005
    I'd start with a 50K pot, make sure its tapered, not linear. Linear will work, but tapered pots work better for audio applications.

    Parts express has input jacks with a plastic 'disc' to keep the ground off the chassis.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited May 2005
    This should answer some of your questions:
    Gallo Ref 3.1 : Bryston 4b SST : Musical fidelity CD Pre : VPI HW-19
    Gallo Ref AV, Frankengallo Ref 3, LC60i : Bryston 9b SST : Meridian 565
    Jordan JX92s : MF X-T100 : Xray v8
    Backburner:Krell KAV-300i
  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited May 2005
    That's a mod squad line drive- it's actually on ebay right now for $80... Note that all the grounds are shared & attached to the chassis. One improvment would be to get yourself a rotary switch that will switch both ground & signal on both left & right, but they aren't cheap- you'd need a 4 pole, x position (where x is your # of inputs). That would do a lot to eliminate any crosstalk.
    Gallo Ref 3.1 : Bryston 4b SST : Musical fidelity CD Pre : VPI HW-19
    Gallo Ref AV, Frankengallo Ref 3, LC60i : Bryston 9b SST : Meridian 565
    Jordan JX92s : MF X-T100 : Xray v8
    Backburner:Krell KAV-300i
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited May 2005
    FWIW I sent an email to Gary at Dodd requesting a totally passive pre based on his mid-level tubed Dodd chasis. 3 inputs, 1 output;

    $650 w/Alps
    $850 w/Dact

    Now that would be unique, and I'm seriously considering it...
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited May 2005
    That would be interesting Steve. I think you should go for it, that way I can play with it before it gets shipped out.

    ;)

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited May 2005
    If I do it, absolutely--take her for a test ride. I love runnin my system passively, it's just a pain in the **** trying to balance 2 knobs on the back of the amp.

    I'm still debating going fully passive or maybe go the Monolithic PA-1, just in case I ever run into a source that needs a little extra push...
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited May 2005
    would be cool far as the custom job.... But way to much money. for a passive IMO..

    Thanks for the info guys, I'll make this if i can find a cool project box.. or a match to my SI amp project. Were talking sonic impact cost on the passive pre for my bedroom not "High end" LOL... :)
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited May 2005
    I kind of figured you were wanting to build one, just thought I'd throw that out there.

    I've done a ton of searches lately on "DIY preamp" and found lots of info...give it a shot.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • BlueMDPicker
    BlueMDPicker Posts: 7,569
    edited May 2005
    Since it's for the bedroom, here's an fairly inexpensive kit w/remote:

    Passive pre with remote
  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited May 2005
    cool kit.....
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC