Revitalized your SDA's soundstages!

har_navalta
har_navalta Posts: 957
edited May 2005 in Flea Market
I recently assembled 3-SDA pin/blade cable. I have 2 that are available, the other one has been sold to a clubpolk member. If you are interested e-mail me at har_navalta@hotmail.com.


The cable that I made improves SDA soundstages with Gold pins and Rhodium blades prevents rust and corrosion free for longer and tighter connections. Your SDA's sound like never before!

Exceeds original Polk Audio Specs. They are more Rigid than Polk original.
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  • har_navalta
    har_navalta Posts: 957
    edited May 2005
    There are 2 available! First come first serve...
  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited May 2005
    FYI, for all the new(er) members, Har is a resident ****, that has accused other members of theft and dishonest practices, while they were in the process of trying to do him a favor AND he has left members holding the financial bag on deals he has failed to follow through on.

    He only shows up on a rare occasion to peddle his cables, which any of you can make yourself, for much less, and not support an **** in the process.

    The corrosion statement is a joke, you are in some cases MORE likely to induce / accellerate corrosion between different metals making contact, vs similar. If you use this cable, you would be smart to upgrade the connections on the back of your SDAs to the same metals.

    You have been warned. Have a nice day Har.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited May 2005
    Welcome back Har, you have brought me out of retirement.

    Please feel free to go **** yourself.

    If you wish to deal with Mr. Navalta, rock on, but please be aware that he has directly violated, insulted and abused the forum to the extent of being persona non grata.

    He is simply here to peddle his own "product".

    It's nice that you drop in from time to time to prey on the new Polkies and offer help....if you succeed, well bully for you, but I feel sorry for the recipients.

    If anyone needs the information to make your own "upgraded" Polk SDA IC or generic SDA IC, email me directly or do a "search" as Reeltrouble has posted.

    I guess it's about time I post my pics/ info on SDA IC build.

    The cable data is generic, simply substitute your own choice of cable in the mix, crimp some connectors, and you have just moved into the next level.

    It's great to see you Har, now please crawl into the hole that you came from and say hello to Scott.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • hotwheelman
    hotwheelman Posts: 1,300
    edited May 2005
    WOW.....I can't believe my eyes, and just when I thought it was safe to come out.:rolleyes:
    "Its worked so far but we're not out yet."
    "Hey big man let me hold a dollar"
  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,907
    edited May 2005
    Revitalized your SDA's soundstages!

    Ummmm....that's past tense you know.
    And plural to boot. Are you talking about something that's already happened to my soundstages.....er, I mean my soundstage ? Did you do this while I wasn't looking or what? :confused: I would have sworn I lock my doors when I leave. I guess I need to check my locks. :(
    Your SDA's sound like never before!

    They do!?!? :confused: Sorry, I didn't notice :o

    BTW, any relation to Hardy-Har-Har??? :confused: You know....Lippy the Lion's sidekick???.....the perpetually depressed laughing hyena??? Oh well, probably before your time. :rolleyes:
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited May 2005
    Polk65 - Amen. That's the politically correct thread. I wish the original thread still existed....well, it does, but what's done is done.

    Har - The current/active Canadians are well respresented and respected here, and you're not one of them, take a hint and take a hike.

    You are the worst example of a Polkie.

    It's sad that you cling to what is a lost cause, as we will always be here to call you out as the loser that you are.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,142
    edited May 2005
    I think it's appropriate that har makes those cables, represents the snake that he is. GFY!!!





    .
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited May 2005
    I would not use them, out of principal. If you haven't read the threads, by all means do so...
  • NCrewson
    NCrewson Posts: 144
    edited May 2005
    Originally posted by RuSsMaN
    FYI, for all the new(er) members, Har is a resident ****, that has accused other members of theft and dishonest practices, while they were in the process of trying to do him a favor AND he has left members holding the financial bag on deals he has failed to follow through on.

    He only shows up on a rare occasion to peddle his cables, which any of you can make yourself, for much less, and not support an **** in the process.

    The corrosion statement is a joke, you are in some cases MORE likely to induce / accellerate corrosion between different metals making contact, vs similar. If you use this cable, you would be smart to upgrade the connections on the back of your SDAs to the same metals.

    You have been warned. Have a nice day Har.

    Cheers,
    Russ


    But he still qualifies for the mystery karma, right?

    Oh me, oh my!! I'm feeling so opressed!!

    :D
    "Sure, everything looks bad if you remember it!"
  • michael_w
    michael_w Posts: 2,813
    edited May 2005
    wow almost 1000 posts... he's like a really determined scott (well with the sticking with one account thing)
  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited May 2005
    Originally posted by dorokusai
    Welcome back Har, you have brought me out of retirement.


    Dude, i was wondering where you were :D
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited May 2005
    This reminded me that I had been meaning to try this tweak on my 1.2TL's, so I went for it. I scrounged around in my toybox and found a 15 foot long Monster Z2 Reference center channel cable that I purchased during my initial dabblings into home theater. I also found some DSR (Danish) Silverline interconnects that have nice RCA plugs.

    The Monster center channel cable consisted of two 12 gauge stranded wires that I soldered together on each end. One wire was left a little longer on each end to allow termination with the RCA plug. The connector grounding flanges of the RCA plug were easily twisted off with a pair of needle-nosed pliers. I'll stop by Radio Shack tomorrow to pick up some heat shrink tubing to make the ends a little nicer looking. The pins of the Silverline RCA connectors fit snugly, therefore there was no need for a stabilizing blade connector.

    The heavier gauge interconnect cable did bring an improvement in soundstage depth. Singers and solo instruments in the center of the soundstage were projected further forward. I heard no difference in soundstage height or width with the recordings I played. There was a small, but noticeable improvement in detail. For example, I could hear a singer breathing more between singing passages. This improvement in detail was noticeable even when listening from another room.

    Aesthetically, the improvised Monster SDA interconnect matches the "snakeskin" nylon jacket of my Monster Z3 Reference speaker cables and Signal Cable Magic Power cords. Sweet.:)
    Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!
  • michael_w
    michael_w Posts: 2,813
    edited May 2005
    How much do you expect to get for one of these cables if by some crazy chance someone attempts to make a transaction with you? Usually prices are good when you are trying to sell stuff even though you have been shut down nicely here :)
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,142
    edited May 2005
    Michael,

    Neither of your posts are making any sense to me, ie., don't feed the troll. Since you obviously don't know the entire history how about leaving it to those that do, eh?
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • michael_w
    michael_w Posts: 2,813
    edited May 2005
    Sorry if I was "feeding the troll" but that wasn't my intent at all. I could care less about this scammer and would with that him and anyone that even bothers to try stupid **** like this would just leave and stop trying. I was just curious how much he thinks his cables are worth / how much he is trying to scam us out of again.
  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited May 2005
    His email address is given in the first post. If he is sold out when you place your order, I'm sure he would be happy to custom make you a cable.:)
    Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!
  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited May 2005
    it's good to know he came back to defend himself. haha
    Never kick a fresh **** on a hot day.

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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,098
    edited May 2005
    What everyone else said.

    Beat it, har.

    BDT
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  • BlueMDPicker
    BlueMDPicker Posts: 7,569
    edited May 2005
    Originally posted by DarqueKnight
    The heavier gauge interconnect cable did bring an improvement in soundstage depth. Singers and solo instruments in the center of the soundstage were projected further forward. I heard no difference in soundstage height or width with the recordings I played. There was a small, but noticeable improvement in detail. For example, I could hear a singer breathing more between singing passages. This improvement in detail was noticeable even when listening from another room.

    Nice job!

    I have to ask, since your previous assumption was that it should not make any difference, if you think the better cable or the better connections are providing the enhancement?

    Mike
  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited May 2005
    I think the double run of 12 gauge cable is providing most of the improvement. A double run of 12 gauge wire falls somewhere between 8 AWG and 10 AWG in cross sectional area, with a corresponding drop in resistance. Twelve gauge cable has a typical resistance of 1.7 ohm per 1000 feet whereas 8 AWG and 10 AWG have resistances of 0.667 ohm per 1000 feet and 1 ohm per 1000 feet respectively.

    The large metal RCA connectors are made of gold-plated oxygen-free copper. I did not try different RCA connectors with the Z2 cable.

    I tried a couple of other cables and didn't hear a difference:

    1. Some 20 foot long Esoteric Audio interconnects that are designed for car audio.

    2. A 15 foot run of Original Monster Cable terminated with Radio Shack RCA's.


    The stock interconnect says 18 gauge on the jacket. Eighteen AWG has a resistance of 6.6 ohms per 1000 feet. It would be interesting to find out what kind of wire (OFC, regular copper, aluminum, etc.) is used in the stock interconnect. However, I'm not about to cut one of mine open to find out.:)
    Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!
  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited May 2005
    Radio Shack didn't have any 3/4" black heat shrink tubing, and I didn't want to order a whole 4 foot length from Parts Express. Fortunately, Home Depot sells 4 inch lengths of 3/4 inch black heat shrink tubing (two pieces per pack).:)
    Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!
  • Skynut
    Skynut Posts: 2,967
    edited May 2005
    maybe I am more twisted than I thought because I really like to read you guys while you slam this Har fella.
    Interesting reading.
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited May 2005
    We are not slamming. We are discussing alternatives to the stock SDA interconnect cable. :)
    Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!
  • Tide
    Tide Posts: 154
    edited May 2005
    Darque, nice job on the cable. Very professional looking.
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited May 2005
    Darque,

    How much did the materials set you back? And would you be willing to make a set like yours for a fellow member?

    Thanks,

    Noel
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited May 2005
    The only thing I had to buy was the heat shrink tubing to dress the cables, which was $1.74. I already had everything else. The Z2 Reference center channel cable cost $50 (MSRP $110). You can get comparable RCA plugs for $5 to $10.

    Thanks for asking, but no, I am not going into the custom cable fabrication business. I am having a difficult enough time trying to prod myself into making upgraded IC's for my other SDA's.

    Cables are very easy to make. The tools used were:

    40 watt soldering iron,
    Cardas Quad-Eutectic solder,
    Heat gun or high wattage hair dryer,
    Needle-nosed pliers,
    Crimping tool,
    Electrical tape,
    Wire strippers.

    There are an endless variety of options with regard to cable and terminations.
    Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!
  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited May 2005
    Monster or similiar bulk inwall wire will work... I made mine from 14-4 monster in-wall wire i had around the house.. shrink tube and spade connectors... I tied 2 conductors together for each spade
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited May 2005
    I would have tried that, but I only had a 10 foot run of Monster inwall left from my HT install. I needed at least 15 feet.
    Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!
  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited May 2005
    I need better fitting spades, anyone know the size of the blade blade and the spades that fit without cutting them... I had a pack of spades and used what i had but had to file them down and they fit sloppy now....
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC