Marketing Weight

Early B.
Early B. Posts: 7,900
edited March 2024 in Clubhouse Archives
I recently sold my SVS PB12-ISD sub. The SVS website says it weighs 78 lbs., but when I shipped it the total weight was 62 lbs. I also noticed this weight discrepancy with my Hsu STF-2. I could be wrong, but it didn't seem to weigh any more than 25 or 30 lbs, but the website says the shipping weight is 44 lbs. Anyone else ever notice this?

Wouldn't surprise me at all if the weight of subs were a bit exaggerated because consumers consider a greater weight to be better quality. And, of course, like many other audio manufacturers who inflate stuff like watts per channel, sensitivity, etc., they are trying to get the marketing edge. Just wondering if the weight of subs are used in the same way.
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited May 2005
    Make sure you're doing an apples to apples comparison. Most sub companies use shipping weight, not actual weight. The shipping weight could include all packaging and pallet material if applicable.

    Granted the discrepencies your seeing would need to include something beyond cardboard and foam. Were they shipped with wood?
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited May 2005
    Most sub companies use shipping weight, not actual weight. The shipping weight could include all packaging and pallet material if applicable.

    The box and packaging material only weighs a few pounds, at best, so there should be a nominal difference between actual weight and shipping weight (unless you have one of those gargantuan subs that ship in a crate).
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited May 2005
    Hmm, my packaging weight about 25 lbs with the sub out, of course it included a wooden pallet and othe items it appears you didn't have. It was just a thought as to why there might be a difference.

    As for shippers scales: I know every time I shipped my LSi's with the same packaging, the weight was different by 2-3 pounds each time.

    Overall, I don't think they use it as a marketing tool, but rather a maximum weight that the sub would weigh on a shippers scale... Who knows, ask the mfgr...
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited May 2005
    Who knows, ask the mfgr...
    Yep, did that today. SVS responded by saying the PB12-ISD weighs 72 lbs. (even though it says 78 lbs on the website) and its shipping weight is 88 lbs. Does this mean the box and packing materials weigh 16 lbs? No way.

    Anyone know if actual weight (incl. box and packing materials) is different from shipping weight?
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,818
    edited May 2005
    The shipping weight of one 2.3TL is 180lbs. The actual weight is 155lbs. That's 25lbs. of box and packing material, so I don't think 16lbs. is out of line for your sub.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited May 2005
    The shipping weight of one 2.3TL is 180lbs. The actual weight is 155lbs. That's 25lbs. of box and packing material, so I don't think 16lbs. is out of line for your sub.
    F1 -- I ought to know what 16 lbs. feels like. I'm reminded of it every time I take a piss.:D
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited May 2005
    Originally posted by Early B.
    F1 -- I ought to know what 16 lbs. feels like. I'm reminded of it every time I take a piss.:D

    I think its time to drain that herpe.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,818
    edited May 2005
    Originally posted by PolkThug
    I think its time to drain that herpe.

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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited May 2005
    I think its time to drain that herpe.
    Herpe? I think you meant "slurpee," -- as in "Big Gulp.":cool:
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