Vertical Vs. Horizontal Center

VR3
VR3 Posts: 28,815
edited May 2005 in Speakers
I've been reading on S&V for a while now, and COF runs a center channel vertically, which looks pretty good if you ask me...although would like what type of shelf you could put around it if thats your gig...

But we all know having a large horizontal surfice is bad...and as Mazeroth said, they compensate for it in the crossover design. But it dosnt change the fact it is still bad...

So who has tried standing their center vertically vs. horizontally? And what did you hear differently?
- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Mjr7531
    Mjr7531 Posts: 856
    edited May 2005
    I haven't tried it personally, but if I may bluntly point-out, the the crossovers in LSiC and CSi5 are cascading, as with the LSi9, perhaps, the difference isn't as vast as we think?
  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited May 2005
    3 identical speakers across the front is universally accepted to be the best sound advice. You can't get seemless sound without identical speakers. In the real world, where most HT setups consist of TV boxes (small or large), entertainment centers (ugh) and WAF in living rooms, the center must take the compromise route. This is where the horizontal array comes into play. It simply is a better looking speaker that fits better into most HT setups.

    Front projection setups with wall mounted screens allow use of the proper 3 identical speakers, as it should be.

    You can play with crossovers and sprayed designs all you want, but it still is a compromise any way you see it.

    Yes, I've used identical fronts across my screen and still prefer the trade off of a center that looks like is should be there (horizontal).


    In the dark, noone cares anyway.

    Just my .02,

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  • TheReaper
    TheReaper Posts: 636
    edited May 2005
    A center speaker's main purpose is dialog in HT (for music you should drop the center out). So the dialog from a center has to be coherent with the image on the screen. If you use a vertical center, you have to be far enough from the screen (angle also plays a role), for your mind to associate the sound with the image.

    In my setup, I am only 6 feet away from the screen. When I used a single upright R20 for a center, I had to move it a little farther back behind the screen. To keep the sound from separating from the image. At my distance, I doubt that I could get a vertical center to work above my TV. I might be able to get a vertical center to work below the screen, but I have an RPHDTV, so there is no room below the screen.

    As a side note on horizontal speaker configurations. When I was using two R20s laying on their side for a center. I prefered having them woofer to woofer, for a tweeter-woofer-woofer-tweeter configuration.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,815
    edited May 2005
    The idea around a vertical center is you tilting the vertical center....

    If you point it straight ahead, it dosnt help you any...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.