Dynaudio opinions

kenstewart
kenstewart Posts: 139
edited January 2006 in Car Audio & Electronics
Anyone have any experience with DynAudio stuff? Supposedly they're real high-end and good for SQ. As expected, once I hooked up my system I'm now on the lookout for better :D

Oh, forgot to ask about Xtant subs as well so include w/response.
Eclipse CD8445 HU
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Two 8" Image Dynamics ID8D2v.3 subs
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited May 2005
    DynAudio are among the best speakers on the planet. Theyre also among the most expensive.

    Xtant subs are very good. Theyre more SQ subs than SPL.
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  • kenstewart
    kenstewart Posts: 139
    edited May 2005
    Thanks Mac. That's exactly what I'm looking for, SQ vice SPL.
    Eclipse CD8445 HU
    Image Dynamics CXS54 Chameleons component setup
    Two 8" Image Dynamics ID8D2v.3 subs
    MTX MXA6001 amp for subs
    MTX MXA3002 2-channel amp for comps
    Accumat and Peel-n-Seal
    Stinger and Knukoncpetz wiring
  • TrappedUnder Ice
    TrappedUnder Ice Posts: 975
    edited May 2005
    Ive had a set of Dynaudio MKII's in my car for over a year now. Just flat out love them. If you get the Dyns...take the time to do the doors right...so you get the best out of them. I a/b them over focal...and the tweeter in the dyn line...there is no comparison IMO.
    good luck...happy hunting.
  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited January 2006
    I just started working for VW here in town, and we have the Dynaudio in some of the 2006 Passat's... My gosh, they totally kick butt! I couldn't believe how impressive they sounded. 600 watt system in the cars, and even without a sub, the bass was EXTREMELY impressive.

    Anything I should know about these bad boys to help sell them to the unsuspecting customers? ;) But on a serious note, I DO want to be informed about these... What do you guys think of them?
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited January 2006
    As mentioned above, Dynaudio are extreme top end speakers and make some of the best sounding gear on the planet, although you do have to pay for it.

    Their lower end stuff isnt as good as youd think tho. While still excellent speakers, they arent worth what they cost at least not the ones Ive heard.

    Easiest way to sell these speakers is to tell em theyre extremely exotic and expensive speakers and world renowned for their craftmanship and are highly sought after in the car audio community.

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  • Red230SX
    Red230SX Posts: 211
    edited January 2006
    Dynaudio's top of the line drivers rate up there with Focal, Seas, Vifa and Scan Speak
    which are all fantastic drivers.

    And all of them are used extensively in high end home audio by many manufacturers.
  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited January 2006
    Awesome guys!!! i'm still in training, but man, I can't wait to research these bad boys, and be knowledgeable about them. The Highs on the 10-speaker package can be almost ear piercing, the mids are full and sound great, while the lows shake your pants when driving. If you threw in a 15" Sub in the back, the car would top any tricked-out rig available. Simply amazing. Thanks for the info guys!

    David
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    CSi5 - center
    FXi3's - surrounds
    RTi4's - surrounds
    SVS PB12-NSD/2 - sub :D:D:D
    Denon 3805
    Rotel RB-985 5-Channel Amplifier

  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited January 2006
    Well, even tho its got Dynaudio stamped on it, its still low bidder OEM crap. I would wager Dynaudio's lowest level speakers are better than the ones theyve got in that car.

    Good rule of thumb for OEM and audio - Stock SUCKS!
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited January 2006
    Agreed :D. Unless you want to spend major coin on a car, and then upgraded the factory system. I would just rather do my own system.

    I have only seen two reviews of stock systems that were actually good. They were on top model luxury cars (both had surround sound), cost $$$$ extra, and were both somewhat lacking in the bass department.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited January 2006
    ^^^ and none of em were half as good as you couldve got from the aftermarket for half the price of the "premium" OEM system!
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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited January 2006
    You are saying that for half of $1000 dollars (That would be $500 for the math challenged) you can land a 10 speaker Dynaudio car system? Interesting. I honestly don't know anything about car audio, hence i'm asking. I do know that the speakers kick butt in the Passat, and don't seem to be, "low bidder OEM crap." Again, it's my opinion.

    Have you heard the Passat's Dynaudio in person to actually back your claim MacLeod???

    Thanks for the thoughts.
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    RTi12's - front
    CSi5 - center
    FXi3's - surrounds
    RTi4's - surrounds
    SVS PB12-NSD/2 - sub :D:D:D
    Denon 3805
    Rotel RB-985 5-Channel Amplifier

  • Red230SX
    Red230SX Posts: 211
    edited January 2006
    MrNightly,

    Trust us when we say they are low bidder OEM Crap.

    Price out top of the line Dynaudio drivers and see what they cost..

    A $1000.00 option on a window sticker doesn't get you anything spectacular. Now if
    it was a 10 thousand dollar option, perhaps.. (And I do beleive the Mark Levinson
    system available on a few Lincolns is a huge option price and may be "half decent"
    sounding).

    I can give you an example of what some high end drivers cost... Scan Speak makes
    a tweeter (just one tweeter) that costs $800.00 (each).

    I am not trying to be ignorant or beligerant, just honest.
  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited January 2006
    yay, lets all be car dealers and see how many speakers we can fit in one car. Afterall, everyone knows more is better
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited January 2006
    Man....

    I better start pyling more in there :D
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    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
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    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
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  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited January 2006
    HAHAHA! i get it!
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited January 2006
    MrNightly wrote:
    You are saying that for half of $1000 dollars (That would be $500 for the math challenged) you can land a 10 speaker Dynaudio car system? Interesting. I honestly don't know anything about car audio, hence i'm asking. I do know that the speakers kick butt in the Passat, and don't seem to be, "low bidder OEM crap." Again, it's my opinion.

    Have you heard the Passat's Dynaudio in person to actually back your claim MacLeod???

    Thanks for the thoughts.

    First of all, 10 speakers in a car is stupid, pointless and does nothing more than screw up the SQ.

    2nd, I could take a set of DB6500's ($200), a set of DB525 ($100) and a stout head unit ($300) and have a system that sounds every bit as good, if not better, than that LOW BIDDER OEM CRAP system.

    Dynaudio's cheapest components set is almost $1000 so if theyre charging $1000 for a 10 speaker system I can assure you, the speakers in there are not even close to the quality of even entry level Dyn's.

    This isnt something exclusive to VW either. All the car manufacturers are getting in on this. Throw some cheap, crappy speakers in there with a major name brand stamped on them, call it a "premium sound system" and then charge $1000 for $100 worth of gear. Its just a fact of life and its a scam.
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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited January 2006
    Red230SX wrote:
    MrNightly,

    Trust us when we say they are low bidder OEM Crap.

    Price out top of the line Dynaudio drivers and see what they cost..

    A $1000.00 option on a window sticker doesn't get you anything spectacular. Now if
    it was a 10 thousand dollar option, perhaps.. (And I do beleive the Mark Levinson
    system available on a few Lincolns is a huge option price and may be "half decent"
    sounding).

    I can give you an example of what some high end drivers cost... Scan Speak makes
    a tweeter (just one tweeter) that costs $800.00 (each).

    I am not trying to be ignorant or beligerant, just honest.

    Hey, I appreciate the help. I don't know much about car audio, so instead of being a **** about it, and calling names, I appreciate the honesty. Not everyone know's it all, hence, questions. I didn't even know what Dynaudio was before VW advertised it in their car, so I wanted to know for myself what kinda audio I would be dealing with.

    $800 for a tweeter is just crazy. Wow.
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    Stuff...

    RTi12's - front
    CSi5 - center
    FXi3's - surrounds
    RTi4's - surrounds
    SVS PB12-NSD/2 - sub :D:D:D
    Denon 3805
    Rotel RB-985 5-Channel Amplifier

  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited January 2006
    MacLeod wrote:
    First of all, 10 speakers in a car is stupid, pointless and does nothing more than screw up the SQ.

    2nd, I could take a set of DB6500's ($200), a set of DB525 ($100) and a stout head unit ($300) and have a system that sounds every bit as good, if not better, than that LOW BIDDER OEM CRAP system.

    Dynaudio's cheapest components set is almost $1000 so if theyre charging $1000 for a 10 speaker system I can assure you, the speakers in there are not even close to the quality of even entry level Dyn's.

    This isnt something exclusive to VW either. All the car manufacturers are getting in on this. Throw some cheap, crappy speakers in there with a major name brand stamped on them, call it a "premium sound system" and then charge $1000 for $100 worth of gear. Its just a fact of life and its a scam.

    Good info thank you. Even tho i'm sure they are crappy speakers compared to aftermarket and what you guys have, they do sound good. But I need to know the truth behind them as well.

    And just FYI, the mark-up on the VW's is about $1000 dollars TOTAL... so it COULD be possible that the 10 speaker package is their entry level Dyn's... COULD be ;) Again, I don't know for sure, but just a wild guess.

    Regardless, thanks for sharing.

    David
    Honoured to be, an original SOPA founding member
    Stuff...

    RTi12's - front
    CSi5 - center
    FXi3's - surrounds
    RTi4's - surrounds
    SVS PB12-NSD/2 - sub :D:D:D
    Denon 3805
    Rotel RB-985 5-Channel Amplifier

  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited January 2006
    Focal Be. #5 tweeters go for ~8 grand a set...
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited January 2006
    Man for that I could have 5 sets of the SR's in the car and be like the VW's :). Then have some left over for some munchies :D .
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  • swerve
    swerve Posts: 1,862
    edited January 2006
    that guy said ****!

    I like Factory infinity systems...
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited January 2006
    swerve wrote:
    that guy said ****!

    :eek: :eek: :eek:

    ......... :)
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    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
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    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
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  • Red230SX
    Red230SX Posts: 211
    edited January 2006
    swerve wrote:
    that guy said ****!

    I like Factory infinity systems...

    Honestly, the factory Infinity system in my Stratus isn't bad at all. It's one of
    the better OEM systems I've heard.

    In the Strat it has a 4 channel dedicated amp under the passengers seat which
    is supposedly manufactured for DCX by Alpine and it supposed to be 110 WPC x
    4CH (though I would say given the dimensions of the amp 75 x 4 is more likely).

    It has 3.5" Coaxial Mid/Tweets in the dash and actual 6"x9" "Woofers" in the
    front doors (no tweeter no mid just woofer cone) and then in the rear deck it
    has Coax 6"x9" with a woofer/tweeter combo.

    The 3.5's are driven off the head unit.

    All in all for OEM it's better than anything GM puts in thier vehicles (I've
    owned 5 Corvette's and Bose is and has always been a JOKE) and the Ford
    Mach systems never impressed me either.

    But at the end of the day it's still OEM.. Swapping out the HU and Drivers
    makes a world of difference.
  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited January 2006
    heard the rockford fosgate system? Worst OEM system ive ever heard in my life
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • Red230SX
    Red230SX Posts: 211
    edited January 2006
    exalted512 wrote:
    heard the rockford fosgate system? Worst OEM system ive ever heard in my life
    -Cody


    Cody,

    No I haven't heard that one. What did that come in? Was that an option on
    the Mazdaspeed MX6's or something?

    The system in my buds 06 Jeep Wrangler is anemic but I guess considering it's
    a tin box with no acoustics to speak of, it's to be expected! :)
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited January 2006
    Nissan offers a Rockford Fosgate badged system in several of their cars. I know someone who has it in their Xterra. "Oooh, look...it says Rockford Fosgate!!..."
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited January 2006
    Yeah, Nissan stuck those things in the Frontiers and Xterras.

    Im sure these "premium" systems sound pretty decent but they still wont come anywhere close to what you could get for the same money.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited January 2006
    the one i heard was in a titan. Mits also has them in their cars
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited January 2006
    Hmmm, lot's of good info here. Thanks guys. And ya, there is always something better. Glad i asked though.
    Honoured to be, an original SOPA founding member
    Stuff...

    RTi12's - front
    CSi5 - center
    FXi3's - surrounds
    RTi4's - surrounds
    SVS PB12-NSD/2 - sub :D:D:D
    Denon 3805
    Rotel RB-985 5-Channel Amplifier

  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited January 2006
    You should be able to sell them pretty well at VW tho bro. 90% of the people youll be dealing with wouldnt know Dynaudio from Kraco so you can explain to them how Dynaudio is ultra high end audio equipment with components starting out at $1000 a piece and theyre getting an entire system for $1000. They wont know the difference and if they go on the internet and check out Dynaudio's reputation, theyll see its just as you say. ;)
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