Sda Crs

danger boy
danger boy Posts: 15,722
edited May 2005 in Vintage Speakers
Ok a pair of SDA's finally show up in my neck of the woods. expensive as hell. but my question is.. do the CRS's utilize the SDA cable between the L&R speaker like the other SDA's do?

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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,411
    edited April 2005
    yes.

    how much they asking? I can live with giving a little more for local pick up, IF you have to. You got free shippingand you get to inspect them.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited April 2005
    Originally posted by hoosier21
    yes.

    how much they asking?
    $495 starting bid... feels to much for the CRS's to me. i could be wrong.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited April 2005
    The CRS's aren't the ones that.....oh, wait....I'm thinking about the SRS's....lol.

    Post a link to the auction so I can see a pic! :D
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited April 2005
    Originally posted by danger boy
    $495 starting bid... feels to much for the CRS's to me. i could be wrong.

    Starting bid? Pass.
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  • fredv
    fredv Posts: 923
    edited April 2005
    Originally posted by dorokusai
    Starting bid? Pass.

    What about this, start at $50 more:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=71571&item=5770474769&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited April 2005
    those ones i like. they speak to me. Waaaaaaaaaa
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited April 2005
    What is the deal with the wrinkled covering on the woofs ? The seller says this is comman,doesn't affect the performance...Just curious.
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  • BobMcG
    BobMcG Posts: 1,585
    edited April 2005
    Indeed, all of the SDAs use the interconnect cable and yes, the starting price is quite steep.

    MR, Wrinkled PRs..... designed as a "flat" radiating surface so will work "best" if flat. How much of a detriment are these not so flat ones? Good question. The one is only a little bit afflicted so may be of little consequence but the other is fairly afflicted. Audible though? I'm sure someone in here has had experiance with this situation before.....
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited April 2005
    I wouldn't call it common, but it's not unheard of either....does that make sense? :)

    I had this issue with a pair of SDA's and used a hair dryer to heat the PR, then pressed the bubbles back onto the diaphragm with a credit card. It worked for me, but your mileage may vary. I believe there was another member that experienced the same problem, and was able to repair his in some way, shape or form.

    It's not exactly performance affecting per se, but if it becomes worse it may become audible upon excursion.

    They look like they are in pretty good shape, but he's already at premium pricing and they are in no way worth $750. I'd watch them, but if bidding gets moving they will quickly go above what they are actually worth IMO.
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited April 2005
    Thanks guys,I have been looking for SDA's...I missed a pair this week, that were within a 3 hour drive by 6 f@@king dollars!!!

    Just wondered what was up with the wrinkling on this pair.
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  • danger boy
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    edited April 2005
    Originally posted by Mike Reeter
    Thanks guys,I have been looking for SDA's...I missed a pair this week, that were within a 3 hour drive by 6 f@@king dollars!!!

    Just wondered what was up with the wrinkling on this pair.


    Opps! don't you hate that? i hesitated on placing a bid for something yesterday.. the dude outbid me by one dollar. UGH!!!!
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited April 2005
    Just for reference I paid about $500 shipped for my pair of CRS+. They are mint with stands, original boxes, SDA cable and manuals though. I could not tell from new. I think a starting bid of $495 is just stupid. I would keep looking. I may sell mine in a few months, maybe not. Watch the flea market. :)
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  • BobMcG
    BobMcG Posts: 1,585
    edited April 2005
    Could I borrow that credit card, you know just in case one of mine bubbles? :p
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  • danger boy
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    edited April 2005
    Max what is the difference between the CRS and CRS+ ?
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  • BobMcG
    BobMcG Posts: 1,585
    edited April 2005
    Wasn't the change in name made when the design went from using two tweeters (one for SDA & one for stereo) to using just one?
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited April 2005
    Wouldn't it then no longer have the SDA effect?
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited April 2005
    Originally posted by BobMcG
    Could I borrow that credit card, you know just in case one of mine bubbles? :p

    No problem, anything to help out a fellow Polkie :)
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,592
    edited April 2005
    Originally posted by audiobliss
    Wouldn't it then no longer have the SDA effect?

    Polk discovered that the SDA tweeter wasn't needed as the main SDA effect is in the mid range. Personally, I find the SDA tweeter creates a phasey effect that I don't like. Your mileage may vary.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited April 2005
    As large, expensive, and power-hungry as the SDAs are, I doubt I'll ever have any mileage with them! lol
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited April 2005
    Originally posted by danger boy
    Max what is the difference between the CRS and CRS+ ?
    Bob and F1 are correct. The CRS+ is closer in performance to all the other SDA's and is probably what you are looking for unless you are looking to collect all the vintage polks for whatever reason.

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  • madmax
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    edited April 2005
    BTW, This is what the CRS+ looks like.
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  • danger boy
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    edited April 2005
    nice Max. lookin good.
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  • danger boy
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    edited April 2005
    resized for your viewing pleasure. :D
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  • fredv
    fredv Posts: 923
    edited April 2005
    Originally posted by madmax
    BTW, This is what the CRS+ looks like.

    Hey Max,

    Which big brother is the one standing below the CRS+?

    -fredv-

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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2005
    If POLK decided 1 tweeter is better couldn't we disconnect the extra tweeter to get the new and improved sound ? Could it have been a cost cutter and having 2 tweeters is icing on the cake if we like the sound of them.? we would still get the effect and having 2 tweeters just sounds right somehow. thats right , if the extra tweeter is OUT of phase you wouldn't be getting 2 putting out the same sound. How about if I switched the +and - on one to put the two in phase: wouldn't that be alright?. probably not huh...
    I just got my set of crs's about 2 months ago and need that intercon. cable also. Is the only option the one that ken shows us how to build ? I've seen the diagram and directions in another post somewhere? It seemed complicated to me somewhat with the talk about a neg. ground loop or something . I'm pretty shure I'll be following his dir. to the tee sometime in the near future if I'm to get the full benefits out of these. Can you-all tell me what I'm hearing with out the intercon. cable being installed? They sounded pretty good except bright (I didn't have them against any wall ) maybe the passive would have been louder and blended with the sound more if against a wall. thanks
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2005
    I wonder how many others noticed that tag too. I thought it was a mirage speaker tag at first.;)
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited April 2005
    I have a pair of Original SDA CRS, and you can't disconnect the SDA tweeter and bingo, you have a CRS+. You can certainly eliminate the SDA tweeter, but one would have to remove the crossovers and reroute a couple wires.

    There isn't anything wrong with this speaker or any that use the SDA tweeter, it's simply different. It trails some high end off into space sometimes, and if you're used to "normal" SDA's....it catches your attention.

    I've also owned a couple pairs of SDA 2's....and they exhibit the same effect, but I didn't dislike them either.
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited April 2005
    Damn, Max... Those are some nice looking stands...

    Tony,
    You don't have to build the AI-1 interconnect unless you are running a non-common ground amp.

    With a common ground amp you can just use speaker wire/ lamp cord as an interconnect to get rolling.
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2005
    Thanks,Sounds like sda is on the way.:D I still have to clean my shop up to be able to get them to a wall. later on my experience with them.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited April 2005
    Originally posted by fredv
    Hey Max,

    Which big brother is the one standing below the CRS+?

    -fredv-

    That must be the 1C's. An yes, they do make nice stands. :D

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