Can PLIIx "misfire"?
cnjvh
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When using PLIIx over DD 5.1 (both DVD's and HD STB), on a couple occasions it has seemed to me that certain sounds have come out of an inappropriate channel.
For instance, something exits the screen top right and an effect is heard from the SBL. Or a piano on a soundtrack seems to pan left-right-left with no apparent visual cue for doing so.
I notice some of these oddities on Elektra in partcular.
Is it possible for the PLIIx decoder to become temporarily confused and route things incorrectly? It seems to me that it can't route things across channels but rather just decode matrix information or localize phantom info to a certain speaker (for non EX).
Or is this simply a case of poor judgement or different artistic interpretation on a sound engineer's part?
The usual suspects are covered - there are no phase errors or speakers connected to wrong channels. Without another PLIIx capable AVR, this could be really hard to troubleshoot :-(
AVR is the Denon 3805...
Any thoughts?
For instance, something exits the screen top right and an effect is heard from the SBL. Or a piano on a soundtrack seems to pan left-right-left with no apparent visual cue for doing so.
I notice some of these oddities on Elektra in partcular.
Is it possible for the PLIIx decoder to become temporarily confused and route things incorrectly? It seems to me that it can't route things across channels but rather just decode matrix information or localize phantom info to a certain speaker (for non EX).
Or is this simply a case of poor judgement or different artistic interpretation on a sound engineer's part?
The usual suspects are covered - there are no phase errors or speakers connected to wrong channels. Without another PLIIx capable AVR, this could be really hard to troubleshoot :-(
AVR is the Denon 3805...
Any thoughts?
No earth robot is going to tell ME which button to press!!
--Stuff--
Front: Polk Audio RTi12
Center: Polk Audio CSi5
Surrounds: Polk Audio RTi8 (x4)
Sub: SVS PB10-ISD (Dual)
AVR: Denon AVR-3805
Blu-Ray: Panasonic BD30
Display: Sony KDL-55NX720B
STB: Xfinity X1DVR
--Stuff--
Front: Polk Audio RTi12
Center: Polk Audio CSi5
Surrounds: Polk Audio RTi8 (x4)
Sub: SVS PB10-ISD (Dual)
AVR: Denon AVR-3805
Blu-Ray: Panasonic BD30
Display: Sony KDL-55NX720B
STB: Xfinity X1DVR
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Comments
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DLPIIx overlay of DD 5.1 should derive the back center channel(s) from the L/R/ surround channels only.Best Regards, Cliff
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Originally posted by TheGrayGhost
DLPIIx overlay of DD 5.1 should derive the back center channel(s) from the L/R/ surround channels only.
Agreed, thats what I've heard as well which would seem that anything happening in the front (like the odd panning) is certainky not due to PLIIx.
Last night, I listened to the same passages in stereo mode and it seemed like the effect was less but still present.
This is probably just me over-analyzing my system - its probably just mixed this way :rolleyes:No earth robot is going to tell ME which button to press!!
--Stuff--
Front: Polk Audio RTi12
Center: Polk Audio CSi5
Surrounds: Polk Audio RTi8 (x4)
Sub: SVS PB10-ISD (Dual)
AVR: Denon AVR-3805
Blu-Ray: Panasonic BD30
Display: Sony KDL-55NX720B
STB: Xfinity X1DVR -
You watched Elektra???:o
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Originally posted by Polkmaniac
You watched Elektra???:o
Shhhh!! (looks nervously from side to side)...
Ok yes I did it!!! Hey is got a good soundtrack and one of the few action movies I've gotten my wife to watch with me (its OK cause its got girls kicking arse)
No earth robot is going to tell ME which button to press!!
--Stuff--
Front: Polk Audio RTi12
Center: Polk Audio CSi5
Surrounds: Polk Audio RTi8 (x4)
Sub: SVS PB10-ISD (Dual)
AVR: Denon AVR-3805
Blu-Ray: Panasonic BD30
Display: Sony KDL-55NX720B
STB: Xfinity X1DVR