need CD player upgrade advise
ohskigod
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I am mulling aroung my CD player situation. right now, i run a Toshiba 3960 unmodified. I'm actually happy with the performance over the Onkyo 6 disc carousel i used to have. but as i look at my 2 channel rig (see signature for details), i cant help but think that maybe that is where my next upgrade should be.
now here are the options.
a) find a quality player to replace it with, my budget would be sub 500 dollars, with a goal for bang for the buck.
b) Mod the Tosh
here is the problem with option B. i have no experience with a soldering iron, and i seem to be very hesitant to do so. I also seem to feel that shipping it out and paying someone else to do it might not be prudent. I mention this only because i know if i just asked for opinions on a good budget player in my price range, it would come up anyway.
Any ideas on a quality player in my price range? I was looking at the cambridge audio's, but there are very few audio shops by me for demos of quality stuff (the BB and CC's not withstanding).
any help from the gurus would be appreciated.
now here are the options.
a) find a quality player to replace it with, my budget would be sub 500 dollars, with a goal for bang for the buck.
b) Mod the Tosh
here is the problem with option B. i have no experience with a soldering iron, and i seem to be very hesitant to do so. I also seem to feel that shipping it out and paying someone else to do it might not be prudent. I mention this only because i know if i just asked for opinions on a good budget player in my price range, it would come up anyway.
Any ideas on a quality player in my price range? I was looking at the cambridge audio's, but there are very few audio shops by me for demos of quality stuff (the BB and CC's not withstanding).
any help from the gurus would be appreciated.
Living Room 2 Channel -
Schiit SYS Passive Pre. Jolida CD player. Songbird streamer. California Audio Labs Sigma II DAC, DIY 300as1/a1 Ice modules Class D amp. LSi15 with MM842 woofer upgrade, Nordost Blue Heaven and Unity interconnects.
Upstairs 2 Channel Rig -
Prometheus Ref. TVC passive pre, SAE A-205 Amp, Wiim pro streamer and Topping E50 DAC, California Audio Labs DX1 CD player, Von Schweikert VR3.5 speakers.
Studio Rig - Scarlett 18i20(Gen3) DAW, Mac Mini, Aiyma A07 Max (BridgedX2), Totem Mites
Schiit SYS Passive Pre. Jolida CD player. Songbird streamer. California Audio Labs Sigma II DAC, DIY 300as1/a1 Ice modules Class D amp. LSi15 with MM842 woofer upgrade, Nordost Blue Heaven and Unity interconnects.
Upstairs 2 Channel Rig -
Prometheus Ref. TVC passive pre, SAE A-205 Amp, Wiim pro streamer and Topping E50 DAC, California Audio Labs DX1 CD player, Von Schweikert VR3.5 speakers.
Studio Rig - Scarlett 18i20(Gen3) DAW, Mac Mini, Aiyma A07 Max (BridgedX2), Totem Mites
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Buy a used player then you can audition it in your system. If you don't like it, sell it!
Nice (used) CD players in your price range:
Arcam CD 72 or CD 73
Rotel RCD 1072, 1070, or 970 and 972, I believe
Original Rega Planet
NAD C 541 or 541i
Should keep you busy for a while!Sony KDL-40V2500 HDTV, Rotel RSX-1067 Receiver, Sony BDP-S550 Blu-ray, Slim Devices Squeezebox, Polk RTi6, CSi3 & R15, DIY sub with Atlas 15 -
Cambridge Audio D500SE, Azur 640C, Music Hall MMF CD-25 would also be good choices.
Personally, I wouldn't bother with the Tosh upgrades. But that is MY opinion.Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2 -
I've been very happy with my Cambridge Audio 640C. It did take a lot of hours to get the DAC smoothed out, but it is very sweet now!DKG999
HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED
Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC -
Choose both options. Get madmax to mod your Tosh for you. IMO, the modded Tosh sounds just as good as the Cambridge Audio 640C I used to own. In the meantime, save your money for a tube CD player like an Njoeb Tjoeb or Jolida.HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50 LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub
"God grooves with tubes." -
Originally posted by Early B.
In the meantime, save your money for a tube CD player like an Njoeb Tjoeb or Jolida.
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+1 more vote for the Jolida-excellent definition, responds well to tube rolling, plus you can still find deals if you're quick on Audiogon in the $650-700 range.
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a while back someone mentioned a AMC 8 ? anyone know anything about this.PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
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Originally posted by DAGLJAM6
+1 more vote for the Jolida-excellent definition, responds well to tube rolling, plus you can still find deals if you're quick on Audiogon in the $650-700 range.
does that price range qualify for a budget player? seems rather high to me.PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
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Allowing that the term "budget" signifies different values for different people sure the Jolida may be 20% higher than his max figure but if he's willing to spend say $450-500 on a cdp (and by all means there are great cd players in that price range) why not at least entertain the idea by others and save up the remaining $150
and get a player that, for not much more than you're budget, performs at a level far above a decent "average" cdp.:cool: -
Last count I have 5 cd players in the house including the Jolida. The Jolida is my favorite because you can alter the sound with tubes but it is a little pricey.
I also have a Rotel cd player and it sounds very good compared to the Jolida. The RCD02 would be something to check into at $499 new.
My brother has a 6 disk Onkyo and bought a Rotel RCD 1070 as an upgrade. You can hear the increased detail difference.
Audiogon used is a safe bet. If you don't like a player just turn around and sell it at the same price you paid. Easy way to get your demo on if you have no local dealers. -
Originally posted by ohskigod
I was looking at the cambridge audio's, but there are very few audio shops by me for demos of quality stuff (the BB and CC's not withstanding).
i bought my cambridge 540d from them at the audioadvisor demo price without having to haggle. call and ask what players they have on hand before making the trip though, cause i don't think they had the whole ca line on display, but had others that would be worth researching before a long trip.
http://amazinghometheater.com/contact.asp
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Originally posted by danger boy
does that price range qualify for a budget player? seems rather high to me.
Al,
The price for a new one is $900, the $650-$700 range is for a used one. As Dave pointed out, the term budget means different things to different people. IMO, even at full list price it's a deal as the player performs at a higher level than it's price point, is built like a tank, upsamples and uses tubes in the output stage.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Jesse,
I didn't know it was a tube CDP. that changes everything. I'd like to own a tube CDP some day. I've never head one.PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
Vancouver, Canada Sept 30th, 2012 - Madonna concert :cheesygrin: -
thanks for the input, while i am still thinking of a game plan, everyones thoughts puts more detail into my options.
hey scottnbnj, i'll check that place out. not terribly far from me.Living Room 2 Channel -
Schiit SYS Passive Pre. Jolida CD player. Songbird streamer. California Audio Labs Sigma II DAC, DIY 300as1/a1 Ice modules Class D amp. LSi15 with MM842 woofer upgrade, Nordost Blue Heaven and Unity interconnects.
Upstairs 2 Channel Rig -
Prometheus Ref. TVC passive pre, SAE A-205 Amp, Wiim pro streamer and Topping E50 DAC, California Audio Labs DX1 CD player, Von Schweikert VR3.5 speakers.
Studio Rig - Scarlett 18i20(Gen3) DAW, Mac Mini, Aiyma A07 Max (BridgedX2), Totem Mites -
I just picked up a Rotel RCD-1072 on ebay for $536. It only had approximatly 20 hours of use. I replaced an old Sony carrosel unit and the sound difference is amazing. Very detailed, good sound stage and great bass response. I would look into finding this unit in your price range.2 ch rig:
Parasound Halo A21 amp
Wyred4Sound DAC2
Audiophilleo 2
Dodd Audio Tube Preamp
Parasound Halo P3 Preamp
Mac Mini + Amarra, Audirvana Plus, Pure Music
2TB External HD
PS Audio P3
Rotel RCD1072 cd player
Polk SDA-SRS 2.3 Speakers -
Deals can be out there....I got my Music Hall for $300 which I think is a pretty good deal...System 1: Martin Logan Vantage, Rotel RC 1070, B&K Reference 200.2, Music Hall DAC 15.2, Yamaha 2300
System 2: LSi15 w/db840, Marantz SR8400, Rotel 1080, RM6800 (C&S), Sony X2020ES
System 3: LSi7, Yamaha SW215, Music Hall Maven, Music Hall MMF CD25 w/627opamps
System 4: RTi100, Harman Kardon AVR 230, Panasonic DVD