Toshiba 3960

George Grand
George Grand Posts: 12,258
edited April 2005 in Flea Market
I need this thing like Custer needed another indian. I burned it in for somebody. Sorry to ask it, but I paid $80 including the shipping to my home. It is virtually mint, and maybe has 75-100 hours burn-in on it (stand-alone burn in, it has about an hour of time actually hooked to The He-Man Rig).

So $80 + shipping or just plain $80 for a local pick-up. I'm not shipping international and that includes Canada.

It means nothing to me, but a thumbs up from Stereophile might mean something to you, and that's just what it got.

George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,560
    edited March 2005
    George,
    Not sure what this is. Is it the SD-3960 single disk DVD player or some older model CD player?
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2005
    It is the much talked about DVD player.

    George
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,907
    edited March 2005
    My, what a glowing sales pitch you have there my fellow senior citizen ;)
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2005
    In another month, when you're as old as me, you'll be able to charm the pants off.......... Russ.

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited March 2005
    eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek..................Russ with no pants:eek:
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited March 2005
    George,
    You have been listening to jet engines too long. Those sound awesome. Maybe some younger ears are needed. :D
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2005
    Maybe you're welcome to take it off my hands for what I paid for it. I picked it up largely on your recommendation.

    It's new Max. You feel so strongly about these you can buy it, modify it, and sell it for big bucks.

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,560
    edited March 2005
    Its to bad for George that this player is available for $55 most anywhere. George, my suggestion is to just put this thing in your magic closet for a few years, and hope that by then it will be a cult classic worth more than you paid for it. Otherwise, find a bedroom to put this in.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited March 2005
    this player is available for $55 most anywhere.
    Yeah, you're lucky if you get $40 for it. You may wanna reconsider the mods. For $30 in parts, you can turn that pumpkin into a princess.
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    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2005
    Thanks for the info on current pricing guys. I don't get out a lot and didn't realize it was still being sold.

    As far as sinking another dime into this thing, I don't think so.

    Into the box for storage in the Magic Closet it is. Couple years from now you guys can be my certification that it has virtually no time on it.

    Max, watch the skies.

    George
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2005
    Due to the fact that it is Easter, a holiday, why don't I let your moron statement pass?

    Because I already have very nice cd machines here, and don't feel like getting taken for another dime.

    Whine this Frankenstein.

    Happy Easter stupid.

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by George Grand
    Max, watch the skies.

    George


    HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE!!!

    It's a little cool outside but nice. There is a little cloud cover but I don't mind. Whats that! Is it a plane? Whats that guy doing anyway? OH ****... INCOMING... :eek: :eek: :eek:
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2005
    i just hooked up my 3960 to my HDTV for the first time last night and watched a movie. I was impressed by the video quality of the darn thing for the $60 i paid for it.

    The PQ was the same as my older more expensive Toshiba.

    I still like the analog outputs for CD listening. using the coax audio output didn't sound any different. the magic is in the analog L&R output stage only i think.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited March 2005
    I just hooked up my modded 3960 to an HK stereo receiver and it sounds great. No complaints.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • Flak
    Flak Posts: 3
    edited March 2005
    Any suggested websites with directions for any "simple" mods?
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  • Vegas Dave
    Vegas Dave Posts: 11
    edited March 2005
    Vinnie and Swenson mods

    http://www.audiosold.com/articles/toshmod.htm
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2005
    You guys think that with $80 invested in this thing that I don't WANT to hear great sound? Believe me, I'd be thrilled if I did. Maybe I just don't want to hear it AS BAD as others. Even others that have less of an investment than I do. Much less.

    This thing is nothing to write home about, that's for certain.

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,505
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by anonymouse
    It takes a pretty self righteous, pompous twit to assume that all of us, and many on other forums who have had wonderful experiences with this player can all be so wrong.

    So it does not sound good to your ears... who gives a rip?

    Move on... as someone who is experienced with a lot of equipment, you should know better than most that what sounds good to others may not sound good to you, and vice versa. It does not mean that the equipment sucks - just that it sucks to you. Thats fine. Its 80 bucks, for Pete's sake. Thats at least 30 more than you should have paid for it, which is your own fault.

    Sure... many of us (me included) have not had the good fortune to experience the sound of separate transports and high end DAC's. If I could afford those, I would spring for them, and if it turned out I did not like em, I would not be whining like a big baby about all the bad advice I was given. I would eBay the thing, take my losses and start again.

    You might consider doing the same.



    picture me still waiting for the angry grizzly to effin snap!!! :eek: :D
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,907
    edited March 2005
    It takes a pretty self righteous, pompous twit to assume that all of us, and many on other forums who have had wonderful experiences with this player can all be so wrong.

    Ummm......I don't think he's assumed anything. All he's said so far is that he doesn't like it and wants to sell it. Everyone else that likes it seems to be taking exception to that for some reason.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by anonymouse
    So it does not sound good to your ears... who gives a rip?
    Obviously......YOU do.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,786
    edited March 2005
    Lights up "mahageny pipe" as he sits back in his leather chair.....anybody got some popcorn?
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,124
    edited March 2005
    Pardon me......do you have any Grey Poupon??


    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by anonymouse
    This is a similar scenario here folks. Only difference being Mr. Grand here is a decorated member with over 2000 posts, and I'm not.
    He also has tact which you lack. Is there any particular reason that you believe people should pay you much attention just because you're screaming for it? Your sense of entitlement is what makes many mock your type.

    Chill the **** out and ignore the thread if you're not in the market for the player.
    comment comment comment comment. bitchy.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited March 2005
    That was in response to your quip of
    Quit the whining and do the effin mods.
    so don't try to play holier than thou. I'm sure you're at least bright enough to not need the entire convo run down for you.

    I didn't claim to be totally tactful, and I'd imagine if you asked really nice you'd have a few people tell you so.

    Bottom line, this is a for sale thread. Are you buying? If not, shove off. (and to your arguement on why I'm posting, I'm telling you to take your meds because taking a dump like you've done here in peoples threads is childish at best, and DEFINITELY not welcome)
    comment comment comment comment. bitchy.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,124
    edited March 2005
    I LOVE it when someone acts like a complete **** in a situation that they have NOTHING to do with........yeah, I can't IMAGINE why George wouldn't want to plunk another couple hundred in a machine he doesn't really need anyway (BRILLIANT advice btw).....and then has the nerve to act surprised.

    DING! FRIES ARE DONE!

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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,505
    edited March 2005
    i have the Tosh myself and am quite surprised with its performance just stock. maybe it just gets along with my system better than it gets along with georges. I'm certainly not going to get offended if he doesnt like it.
    I've met george, and while i only met him for a day, i know that if he doesnt like something in his system, he is not going to continue to use it,plain and simple. I've also heard his system (both of em) and from what i've heard, quality of the source is none too much of an issue for him. Mods or no Mods, dont worry about him, he'll be juuuuuust fine.

    My .02 FWIW
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,560
    edited March 2005
    Guys,
    Give it up on this thread. George wanted to sell it for what he bought it for. The prices have dropped, so now he's just gonna put it in storage rather than sell it for a sharp loss. He doesn't want to fuss with it. End of story.

    Anymore talk about this player should be moved over to the appropriate forum. This is supposed to be a sales thread.

    Its amazing how much hype can be created about a player that is otherwise very average.

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,786
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by billbillw
    Its amazing how much hype can be created about a player that is otherwise very average.

    DING! SECOND ORDER IS UP!
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,505
    edited March 2005
    please pass the soda, i have to wash the popcorn and twizzlers down with something!!!!! LOL
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    Classe Audio 5 Preamp, DIY1200as2 Icepower Amp x 2, Wiim pro streamer and Topping E70 Velvet DAC, California Audio Labs DX1 CD player, Polk LSi15's with MM840 woofer upgrade.

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  • chenj16
    chenj16 Posts: 148
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by brettw22
    That was in response to your quip of so don't try to play holier than thou. I'm sure you're at least bright enough to not need the entire convo run down for you.

    I didn't claim to be totally tactful, and I'd imagine if you asked really nice you'd have a few people tell you so.

    anonymous
    Quit the whining and do the effin mods.

    I suppose anonymous didn't mean to offense George with the above sentence, personally I will take it as a suggestion, it's just a way one would convince the other or make a suggestion that he thinks is very worth doing. to my understanding, it's kool

    Jia
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