Need real help w/ stands

timothyj

Guys, my one year old son just pushed over my sanus stand/lsi7. Thank God he was not hurt, but my 7 got a nasty scratch. At this point I could care less about the speaker. I'm worried about it happening again - it is too top heavy on the light sanus stands. My question: does anyone have experience with 30" fillable stands, like say outlaw's speaker stands. And exactly how heavy do they get, number of pounds. Is it stable enough that a child would not be able to push them over? If not I may be looking at getting some floorstanders.

Willow

I don't think any stands will help this you would have to have bricks or lead on the base and have the speaker screwed into the base...good luck maybe others can help you out, but this is from testing at my house and I don't have kids and my stands are 24" and sand filled

billbillw

There are a huge variety of mass loadable 30" stands. Look for a set with the largest footprint and the largest mass loading chambers. If you can put 20-30lbs of lead shot into each, they are going to be very stable and not prone to tipping. Also try using blue-tak to "stick" the speaker to the stand. That way, if its bumped a little, the speaker won't go tumbling down. You can find blue-tak at glubie.com It has been shown to be as effective at isolating the speaker as spikes.
The Target HR series 28" might be a good choice. Not quite 30", but close. It has two large rectangular tubes that are fillable and its fully welded steel. They weigh 30lbs each before filling.
This is the cheapest place I've seen them:
Link to Dynamic Home Theater

Willow

Bill good suggestion about blue tack!! those are some heavy stands

billbillw

Yeah,
I think he needs something that heavy. I have a pair of Sanus Steel Foundations (SF30b) and I doubt they would be heavy enough even with lead shot. They only weigh about 15lbs each before loading and the tubes aren't that big.

Coincidentally, I'm gonna be selling those soon. My wife doesn't like them and she is worried about the exact same problem that Tim had (no kids yet, but on the horizon) and made me replace them with some RT800i. I'm not complaining.

tryrrthg

Originally posted by billbillw
Coincidentally, I'm gonna be selling those soon. My wife doesn't like them and she is worried about the exact same problem that Tim had (no kids yet, but on the horizon) and made me replace them with some RT800i. I'm not complaining.

I'd be willing to bet that the RT800i will be tipped over a lot easier than a stand that is mass loaded.

I use blu-tak on my speakers and I have to wrestle them off the stands. It's not easy to get them apart. get the Target stands and fill them with sand I bet they weight 60 or 70 pounds after that. Fill them with some BB's or lead shot and they'll be even heavier. Your son would have to be REALLY strong to knock them over.

RuSsMaN

You need wall / ceiling brackets, period.

dkg999

I have a friend with the same type of problem with kids and pets tipping over the stands. I believe he has the Target steel stands, filled with #8 lead shot. We also made a metal bracket about 26" long that we fastened right below the top speaker plate and then fastened to the wall. It really made the stands tip-proof and had the added benefit of blocking the kids from running behind the speakers.

timothyj

Here is the little LSI7 vandal:) I should have been more careful, had he been hurt I would have probably taken a sledge hammer to the speakers. Funny how quickly priorities change.

Russ, can you recommend some brackets?

billbillw

If you go with brackets, check out the B-tech BT77. Crutchfield has them.
They are "side grabbers". Support from the bottom securely and grips on the side. Holds up to 50lbs. I think you will be sacrificing the sound with brackets though.

billbillw

Originally posted by tryrrthg
I'd be willing to bet that the RT800i will be tipped over a lot easier than a stand that is mass loaded.

Shhhh! I was able to get a pair of RT800i to replace the RT25i that I had on stands. I know that they will tip, but she doesn't need to know that.

scottnbnj

screw the stands to the floor. if you have carpet, cut a slit in it and put a metal sleeve between the stand and the floor to avoid pulls, then you can level with washers. predrilling the floor might help too.

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Frank Z

Tim,
You got one good lookin' pumkin farmer there.

timothyj

Thanks Frank, I have to agree.