swivel mounts for tweets

bam88
bam88 Posts: 82
edited March 2005 in Car Audio & Electronics
Theres got to be some better swivel mounts for the polk tweets.
Theres not much swiveling to be done when you use them.
Mine are mounted in my mirror sail. I would like to be able to point them up more ... well up and back. Any tips?
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  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited March 2005
    i found this copper strip that has a bunch of holes in it at Home Depot. put the tweet in the flush mount and screw it into the copper strip and you have a relatively flexible mounting point that you can twist and bend at will, and is easy to mount, cause it has holes. the strip is a bit difficult to cut, but a vice and a hacksaw make it easy. using wire cutters, like i had to, made it rather rough going.

    i think it was in the plumbing section, but i'm not sure.
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  • AustinKP
    AustinKP Posts: 861
    edited March 2005
    do you have pics? I'm also interested in something like that so I can aim my tweets better.
    -Austin
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  • bam88
    bam88 Posts: 82
    edited March 2005
    Any chance anyone has there flush mounts... i think mine went in the trash with the box.....:( I would be glad to pay np would be really easy if ya had a paypal account.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2005
    Im suprised youre having trouble. I think these swivel mounts are pure genius. Granted they dont have a whole lot of movement but my tweets are also mounted in the mirror sails and my sail panels point down so my tweets would to were it not for the swivel mounts. I have enough room to aim them directly at each other or at the opposite head rest and it works fine.
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  • bam88
    bam88 Posts: 82
    edited March 2005
    Well.... i had them point at the head rest but.... it just didnt sound too good when i turned it up so ive pointed them up and it sounds great. Well its not exactly up jus not aimed at my ear or the passengers ear. the treble was a lil painful :)
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2005
    I cant remember what speakers youve got but if youve got the MM6 then yup, they are mighty loud. Actually the only way I recommend MM6 is if youre going to bi-amp them. That about the only way you can tune them properly. Thats also their biggest downside. The x-over has only 1 set of inputs which means you have to run the mid full range and they sound like **** full range.

    You can either buy another MM6 x-over at $50 each :mad: or build your own. Its a pain in the **** but its worth it.
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  • bam88
    bam88 Posts: 82
    edited March 2005
    naa i have the mmc6500
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2005
    Cool. I kinda wish I had the MMC6500's too.
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  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited March 2005
    bam, if your tweets are too loud, perhaps you should turn them down on the xover? failing that, on the HU? cause aiming them straight at your head will provide the best imaging, and aiming them a little bit above you will bring your stage up a bit, if needs be.

    and mac, shouldn't the proper combination of HU and amp xovering do it?
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  • bam88
    bam88 Posts: 82
    edited March 2005
    I have them turned down on the xover to -6. When i say they are loud I dont mean bright. Is just too much trebel right in my ear. Its kind of anoying. First I thought it was just me then my wife got in the truck and said the same thing.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited March 2005
    i would never point the tweeters straight at my head, it will provide for decent soundstage but poor imaging
    -Cody
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2005
    Pointing the tweeters at your head depends on the vehicle. In my truck it localized the sound quite bad. Ive found the best image was with both tweets pointing at each other. The stage remained the same, right above the dash.

    With the MM6, I tried all kinds of configurations and running them straight wired, I never could get it to sound as good as I can bi-amped. The tweeter is just too loud and it does make things sound thin. Now my tweets sounds just right but by not being able to x-over the mids properly, things still sound thin cause the mids seem to roll off well above the point they are capable of playing smoothly. As a result, some cymbals sound like trach can lids and some snares sound very brassy and $100 is too much for another set of x-overs. :(
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  • bam88
    bam88 Posts: 82
    edited March 2005
    so your recomending i should biamp it to get the best sound?
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2005
    Yes. Straight wiring wont make your sound suck, most people do not bi-amp and they get fine results. I just think the added flexibility of tuning your tweeters output will allow you to find that sweet spot a little more accurately than the 0, -3 and -6 db attanuators.
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  • swerve
    swerve Posts: 1,862
    edited March 2005
    i remember the first time my step dad loooked through car audio cookbook he though bi-amping said... blamping.

    then he kept talking about blamping until i finally told him it's BI-AMPING now shut up.

    -adam
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2005
    I need to get that book. Ive looked for it the last couple times I was in Books-A-Million but couldnt find it. I guess I could find it on Amazon.
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  • swerve
    swerve Posts: 1,862
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by MacLeod
    I need to get that book. Ive looked for it the last couple times I was in Books-A-Million but couldnt find it. I guess I could find it on Amazon.
    it's very worth it and an easy read.

    i finished it in 2 sittings but it's a good thing to have to go back on.

    but it's not really a book you read from cover to cover. i just happen to like reading and got hooked.

    anyways mac... do you have you speakers BLAMPED?

    -adam
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2005
    LOL!! You betcha!

    Ill be a bi-amping fool from now on. I got turned on to it by accident.

    My previous amp was an Alpine 40x4 and I was running my Momo 6x9s and Infinity 5.25's off it. I wanted more power to my Momos so I first tried bridging the front and rear channels but it sounded like crap so I tried bi-amping on a whim. At first it was way too treble high but when I fidgitted with the gains I found the sweet spot and my 6x9s sounded better than they ever had before. I was sold.
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  • AustinKP
    AustinKP Posts: 861
    edited March 2005
    Mac - I don't know how good the xover is on your crossfire amp, but you could you bandpass your mids this way: set the low-pass on your HU and then high pass w/ your amp, or vice-versa.

    Bam - I do have the flush mounts I'm not using. PM me if you're interested.

    -Austin
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2005
    My h/u doesnt have a crossover. :(

    My Crossfire amps have a variable x-over from 50-500 Hz low/high pass.

    Ive got my cut at 70 Hz but I need to low pass them at 3500 Hz. Right now I have the gain on my tweets set a little higher and the treble on my h/u set to -4 centered on 10K Hz. This seems to help.

    I also inverted the phase on the tweets today for a trial run and that seems to thicken things up although it seems to muddy the detail a smidge. Ill give it a day or two of listening to see if it works.

    I also tried wiring the left channel out of phase with the right in the hopes of pulling the center of my stage more to the right. It did but it also pulled the left stage to the right.

    Note to self:
    NEVER try to have a competition system in a vehicle as freaking WIDE as a Dodge Ram!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
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  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by MacLeod
    Note to self:
    NEVER try to have a competition system in a vehicle as freaking WIDE as a Dodge Ram!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
    hehe... yet another reason not to drive a truck, and to pick an import instead :D
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by neomagus00
    hehe... yet another reason not to drive a truck, and to pick an import instead :D
    some people wont sink that low;)
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  • spwuinmk67
    spwuinmk67 Posts: 797
    edited March 2005
    Your out numbered on this one neo...:cool:
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  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited March 2005
    yeah, i know, it saddens me... but hey, whatever... :)
    It's not good, very fundamentally simply not good. - geolemon

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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2005
    Gas just hit $2.05 here in Georgia!!!!!! GA is usually about the lowest in the country!!

    Honda Civic? Hmmmmmm. ;)
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  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited March 2005
    TOYOTA Prius? HONDA Civvie Hybrid? 55 mpg soundin pretty good, eh? Even the Accord Hybrid gets 37/29 mpg, and throws down 255 HP!

    Now you should all agree I'm right and go out and buy an import right now! :D
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2005
    I will never, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER buy a Hybrid!

    Ya might as well be wearing a dress!
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  • spwuinmk67
    spwuinmk67 Posts: 797
    edited March 2005
    I'd almost pay to see Mac wearin a damn dress. That'd be priceless...
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited March 2005
    my girlfriends civic gets like 40mpg. my truck gets like 13. but if you think about it, she has like a 2L, i have a 5.7...so considering i have almost 3x the engine she does it evens out...lol
    -Cody
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  • AustinKP
    AustinKP Posts: 861
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by exalted512
    my girlfriends civic gets like 40mpg. my truck gets like 13. but if you think about it, she has like a 2L, i have a 5.7...so considering i have almost 3x the engine she does it evens out...lol
    -Cody
    Oh yeah? Well, my 200hp 3.8L Mustang gets almost 30mpg on the freeway. My brothers 270hp 4.6L GT gets 26mpg. I could never get a truck with gas mileage that bad and gas costing this much! I just paid $1.99 yesterday. Cost me like $30 to fill 'er up. Past year it's been around $25. This sucks!
    -Austin
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