Ive decided

MacLeod · March 2005

Youre gonna love em.

Some advice: MB Quarts love power so make sure you give em enough juice. Id HIGHLY recommend bi-amping them with 75 to each tweet and 75 to each mid. The Polk 400.4 would be perfect.

spwuinmk67 · March 2005

Any other amp suggestions? Not sure still, things I've looked at...Hifonics, US-Amps, Xtant, MTX, a few others that I can't think of. Never thought about the Polk amps really, but there's not enough of them to really cover whatever sub(s) I get. Keeping all amps the same would be nice. I gotta find room to put everything. Two, maybe three amps in the future, sat radio tuner, two huge crossovers, plus subs, and where I wanna mount the speakers. Too much thinking.

MacLeod · March 2005

What subs are you looking to go with?

If you went with Xtant youd be paying out a ton. $550 for the 4.4 for the Q's and either $550 for their 600 watt 6.1 or $1000 for their 1000 watt X1001. Thats the only 2 choices youve got.

As always, Ill recommend MTX and Crossfire.

JL Audio could be another choice. Their E series is priced in the $250-400 range and has plenty of options. The E4300 would be a good one to bi-amp the Q's and then the E1800D could power 2 400 watt subs easily.

exalted512 · March 2005

well whats your budget? you went from hifonics to usamps...like $100-$500...kind of a big difference...
-Cody

spwuinmk67 · March 2005

No set budget. The xtant amp I looked at was on sounddomain for like $600-$700, dont remember. It was 75x4. Don't know what subs yet either. I'm gonna finish the front stage first, then worry bout that.

MacLeod · March 2005

That would be the X604. You could get the 4.4 which is a little cheaper at $550. Either way, I personally think Xtant are the best amps on the market.

exalted512 · March 2005

if youd like to spend that much money on amps then no doubt, id go with USAmps...
-Cody

spwuinmk67 · March 2005

How bout a reasoning for your suggestions. I say this, I say that. Why though.

neomagus00 · March 2005

quite honestly, at this level of amplifier (and a good bit lower, for that matter), it's all personal preference. Features, looks, that's really about it.

MacLeod · March 2005

Why I like Xtant
--by MacLeod

I like Xtant because they have supreme build quality. They are built by the company that makes the bulletproof MTX and use even more superior components on Xtant amp than on MTX amps, thus the higher price.

I like Xtant because they make tons of power cleanly.

I like Xtant because they are built in the good ol' US of A.

I like Xtant because they have balanced line inputs, cooling fans a great thermal cooling setup and gold plated outputs and inputs.

I like Xtant because they have great features like variable crossovers, independant left and right gains, adjustable noise gates and Active Resonance Control.

I like Xtant because they are some of the most stunning looking amps on the market.

I like Xtant because they win tons and tons of SQ competitions.

exalted512 · March 2005

i prefer USAmps over anything aside from Brax, Helix, McIntosh and maybe a few others I'm forgetting.
theyre hand made in the USA, and have you seen the internals on these things? Theyre built like a haus. Anyways, instead of me just retyping why i think theyre great, go the usamps.com and see what they have to say.
-Cody

MacLeod · March 2005

I just cant get over their name tho. USAmps reminds me too much of US Acoustic.

spwuinmk67 · March 2005

I'm also lookin at the Power line of RF amps, thoughts on those?

neomagus00 · March 2005

i'd put the power line at 'good' but still a level below the likes of xtant and usamps. maybe their TypeRF amps are that good, but i've never heard much (good or bad) about them. i'm under the impression that they're a test bed for new ideas, and as such are unique but unproven... but that's just an impression.

MacLeod · March 2005

Oooh, I disagree with ya on that one comrade. The Power series is VERY good gear. 1 ohm stable, tons of clean power and tough as nails build quality. They are, however, very expensive.

spwuinmk67 · March 2005

The RF stuff I can get a discount on, from the same people I got the Q's from. Hence the reason I'm asking opinions on those. For instance, if I can get this amp for a discounted price, do you think that would be up there along the same lines? And how underrated, if at all, do you think it is? One another note, I started to install the Q's. Got the woofers mounted where I want them, no wires run to them yet though, almost, and no tweeters yet. I gotta find a spot to mount my crossovers, and a new way to mount my amps. If I like the way they sound where they are, then I'll glass them there, so they're more stable then the way they're in there now. I'll post pics tomorrow, it's too dark, and my phone's camera doesn't have a flash.

MacLeod · March 2005

I still like Xtant a little better than RF but those Power amps are very badass and definitely worthy of powering Q's. If you can get a smokin' deal on them Id say go for it.

neomagus00 · March 2005

you'd really put the power series as worthy of q's? huh... i guess my opinion of rf is too low...

MacLeod · March 2005

All of Rockford's gear is very good. Their Punch amps are as good as anything in their price range as well. The Power series is excellent. They have much better build quality, and ya gotta love the stable to 1 ohm!

I just dont like em cause theyve gotten a little too mainstream lately and their Power amps are ridiculously high priced.

spwuinmk67 · March 2005

Here's two pics of what I started

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That didn't do what I wanted. When I'm home and not at the lady's house, I'll try again.

exalted512 · March 2005

the new power line is nothing short of amazing. if i could get them for a discount id seriously consider them over USAmps, theyre not better, but theyre pretty damn good. they are SEVERELY underrated amps. at least the big amps were, by like 800-900 watts, so im guessing the same goes for all of them. they had a major turn around when they introduced this line, but like Mac said, theyre very pricey. but if you can, snatch em up for the discount
-Cody

MacLeod · March 2005

Originally posted by exalted512
if i could get them for a discount id seriously consider them over USAmps, theyre not better, but theyre pretty damn good. they are SEVERELY underrated amps.

Actually, when youre in the league of USAmps, RF Power, Xtant and the likes, none are really "better". They are all excellent gear and it basically boils down to which looks the coolest and fits your needs budget, power and features wise.

exalted512 · March 2005

Well I've seen the internals of all 3 and you can see the difference. And I like the fact that that theyre hand made compared to mass produced like xtant and RF
-Cody

spwuinmk67 · March 2005

I only got to take two pics, but thats ok ccause this is all I've done so far. But they're pics none-the-less...

spwuinmk67 · March 2005

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MacLeod · March 2005

You sure that where you want to mount them? It looks like theyre gonna be in the way pretty bad and in danger of getting a foot thru em.

neomagus00 · March 2005

just keep the grilles on and forbid high heels and children

spwuinmk67 · March 2005

On the passenger side....I don't care. Lol. But when I did that, the person helping me, had no complaints about it when we were driving afterwards. The driver side isn't much of a problem. It doesn't block the clutch, the e-brake is still usable. So when I finish hooking up the rest, we'll see how I like it. Theres not many more options, I still have manual windows, and as it is my hand kinda rubs agaisnt the side of the grille.

AustinKP · March 2005

looks like you're going to 'glas them in, right? If so, cut out a hole in the plastic there and they can still be at the same angle, but it'll give you another 4" of clearance. It looks like you could save plenty of room cutting out that pocket alone. Plus, those speakers will sound better IB (opening into the interior of the door) than in a small sealed box. Having them sealed in such a small space against your door would do funny things to your frequency response and low bass extension.

Believe me when I say that the more clearance the better. Try sitting on the passenger side yourself and move around a bit like you would if you were driving a while. It looks like it could get a bit annoying.

MacLeod · March 2005

Austin makes a good point. Those speakers are designed for infinate baffle and if you box them in that small itll make em sound kinda crappy.

Ive decided

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