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SamSagaZ
SamSagaZ Posts: 321
edited February 2005 in Car Audio & Electronics
what diference between MM6 and MMC6500 ?

wich is better?
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  • bknauss
    bknauss Posts: 1,441
    edited February 2005
    MM6500 have a carbon cone. A lot of the Polk guys think they sound better.
    Brian Knauss
    ex-Electrical Engineer for Polk
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited February 2005
    Ive owned both the Carbon and the MM6.

    Personally I think they both sound great but Ill give the nod to the MMC6500 and here is why.

    The MM6 out of the box doesnt sound its best mainly because the tweeter is way too loud. The attenuator on the x-over just isnt enough. However you bi-amp them like I do and with a little tweaking they sound wonderful. But, my 2nd little ****, the MM6 x-over isnt set up for bi-amping so you have to run the mid full range. This is bad cause the mid is very harsh playing frequencies in the high range at loud volumes. You can get a 2nd set of x-overs but they are $100 a pair :mad:

    The MMC6500 is better tuned I think. Right out of the box, they are ready to go with little tweaking and sound awesome. Very clean and super detailed. I think the MM6 is a little more natural sounding but the MMC is great nonetheless.

    My opinion, the MMC6500 is better due to its better x-over and better out of the box SQ.
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  • SamSagaZ
    SamSagaZ Posts: 321
    edited February 2005
    thanks !
    ur great
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  • PoweredByDodge
    PoweredByDodge Posts: 4,185
    edited February 2005
    macleod - build your own passive X over from a 2 dollar radio **** shack through-board and 15 bucks in high quality caps and ferrite coils.

    peachy then...

    www.the12volt.com for a quickie converter
    The Artist formerly known as PoweredByDodge
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited February 2005
    Ya know Vin, that aint a half bad idea but I thought a "homemade" x-over would be of poor quality.

    Is it possible to build one that is high quality and can be done with someone of my limited abilities?
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited February 2005
    can you solder?
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited February 2005
    Dunno. Never tried it. Why solder when youve got duct tape?!? :D

    I wish Kim would just give me a smokin' deal on a set of MM6 x-overs. Ya know, for being such a loyal fan and all around cool guy! :D:D
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
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  • spwuinmk67
    spwuinmk67 Posts: 797
    edited February 2005
    Originally posted by MacLeod
    Dunno. Never tried it. Why solder when youve got duct tape?!? :D

    I wish Kim would just give me a smokin' deal on a set of MM6 x-overs. Ya know, for being such a loyal fan and all around cool guy! :D:D

    ::slap:: Wake up already....cool guy? HA!:D :p
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited February 2005
    Hey! If I werent a cool guy then I wouldnt have a bunch of friends..........:(ok so who wants to be cool anyway?
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
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  • spwuinmk67
    spwuinmk67 Posts: 797
    edited February 2005
    friends, what are they?
    1993 Ford Ranger super cab:
    Pioneer Premier DEH-P880PRS
    MB Quart QSD216
    in need of amps and subs

    Home:
    52" Sharp Aquos
    PolkAudio Monitor 10's
    Harmon Kardon HK3375
    Xbox 360
    PolkAudio XM tuner

    Owner and co-designer of www.basicholdem.com
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited February 2005
    friends are the ppl that give you free beer...
    of which i had way too much tonite...
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited February 2005
    Ill have some tonight!! Or rather gin!

    A friend (of my wife's cause I dont have any) is selling her house so we're gonna go over there and do some "partaking of the ginnage" and "bus' some spades" as a one-last-party-in-the-old-house kind of thing. :D
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited February 2005
    i learned 2 new drinking games last night...waterfalls are fun:D
    -Cody
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  • PoweredByDodge
    PoweredByDodge Posts: 4,185
    edited February 2005
    Macleod,

    If you buy axial non-polarized high quality electrolytic capacitors and ferrite core high current inductors then yes you can build a crossover that is just as good as the average "come with the set of speakers" crossovers.

    When you get into super high end, they'll use precision choke coils instead of standard plane jane inductors, but all things considered, yes you can build - for about 10 bucks - a great set of crossovers.

    the only "downside" is that they would be in a plane jane little black box, instead of in a nice fancy logo-stickered piece.

    I you dont want to task it - tell me the exact model of speaker you want it built for - how many sets of speakers you wanna use - and whether its for woof, tweet, or both (or if you want separate inputs for woof / tweet so you can bi-amp it).

    i can give you a cost then based upon what materials i'll need. You're not looking at much though.
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  • bknauss
    bknauss Posts: 1,441
    edited February 2005
    Here's the thing about making your own crossovers:
    Most crossovers aren't the simple 24db slope or whatever at a certain frequency. There are generally other components to tweak the sound a little bit and definitely makes a difference.
    Brian Knauss
    ex-Electrical Engineer for Polk
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited February 2005
    Originally posted by bknauss
    Here's the thing about making your own crossovers:
    Most crossovers aren't the simple 24db slope or whatever at a certain frequency. There are generally other components to tweak the sound a little bit and definitely makes a difference.

    Yeah thats what Im worried about.

    Thanks for the offer Vin. Ill look into building my own or seeing what else I could come up with.
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
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  • PoweredByDodge
    PoweredByDodge Posts: 4,185
    edited February 2005
    there's only so much **** you can put in line / parallel w/ a speaker before u start **** it up.

    adding high value resistors will decrease the frequency response overall by a certain degree... hence "-3db, 0, +3 db"...

    0 is actually +3, -3 is 0, and -6 is -3

    pull apart a momo xover - all you have is a couple caps, a coil or a solid inductor, and possibly a resistance...

    do it up baby - you'll make yourself proud.
    The Artist formerly known as PoweredByDodge
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  • SamSagaZ
    SamSagaZ Posts: 321
    edited February 2005
    but is possible to create an X-over better than the MMC6500?
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited February 2005
    I may.

    Im using the MM6 x-over for my tweets so all I need is a single coil to low pass my mids at 3500 Hz. Right?

    I could install that near the mid in the door and nobody would be none the wiser.
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
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