I can't decide... Dual Outlaws or SVS PB12-plus/2

PolkThug

My SVS's are calling me right now to watch the i, Robot intro again.......

Polkitup2

Here let me fan the flames. It looks like SVS realizes the market for a small good sounding sub. From their web site news section...

"After that? Say later in the 2nd quarter of 2005? What customers have been begging for, and competitors dreading, for over 4 years now: a small subwoofer that deserves to wear the SVS logo. Probably starting with an entry level salvo, and fleshing out the new line later in the year. Expect a small sub that doesn't act like one. Most "micro-subs" are over-priced, under-performers dominated by a few brands putting more hype than substance going into the product. SVS changed the landscape of large subwoofers. We set expensive brands back on their heels. Now we're about to do the same with products that are heard (and felt) not seen. If you wanted an SVS and hesitated due to their generally considerable size, well your days of paying too much, for too little, are going to be relieved. The train is rolling. This will be the next big thing from SVS. Only small."

VR3

Well for one thing...

The SVS PB10...

is NOT small, maybe compared to other SVS box subwoofers. But if you put it beside something like that Sunfire, it is still a freakin monster...

If you can afford the bigger and badder, get em...

jmierzur

Originally posted by Frank Z
Nope I've never heard one and am not knocking it either. I'm just a little tired of SVS owners (not all of them) running their collective yaps about how great the SVS is and nothing else compares.

Frank, I appreciate your opinion on your Sunfire sub. I'm glad that this works for you. Maybe the original thread starter will look at the sub and determine this unit best suits their needs.

Your choice of words regarding SVS posters was poor at best. I can think of several philosophies (three-letter acronym for a Polk speaker technology, a specific amp class; just to name a few) on the forum that border on this mind-set. I have experience with both and disagree with these opinions. I read posts and acquire their experiences. It may eventually lead me to re-evaluate my own opinion in the future. Doesn’t mean they or I are right or wrong. Just different experiences and tastes. If I am tired of the subject, I just ignore the thread/post.

Happy posting and listening.

jmierzur

Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
Well for one thing...

The SVS PB10...

is NOT small, maybe compared to other SVS box subwoofers. But if you put it beside something like that Sunfire, it is still a freakin monster...

If you can afford the bigger and badder, get em...

Please do me a favor and listen to the Sunfire, in addition to comparing 'paper' specifications and physical size. When you have heard the unit in question, report back with what you liked best.

VR3

Oh, I never said it was a bad subwoofer. But I think it is kind of obvious that if you were to purchase a similar priced SVS it would be pretty much out-muscled...

If I ever hear one, i will definetely let yall know...

I wanna hear REL and Sunfire...

I need to hear the Def Tech Supercubes too...

I have heard the Velo DD series....FINE subwoofers there for their size...

faster100

Heres my theory, If you "love' what you have, be it sunfire or svs, or whom ever makes the sub.. why try other subs. brands, sizes and what not... Frank loves the Sunfire, it works for him.. good enough for me, I love my SVS, I liked my polk subs.. but after i heard the 2 svs's ive owned i will not buy another sub. It works and i cannot see another sub doing anything more for my HT, i'm that satisfied.. as Frank seems to be with his sunfire.. No sub can be to much bass if its calibrated correctly... if it is then turn it down and blend by ear, enough said.. If size is a concern and price isnt, get a micro sub.. if cost to performance ratio is important and size doesnt matter, consider SVS or other larger sub offerings.. and most of all have fun and like what you have purchased for god sakes..

dkg999

I'm with Faster100 on this! We all hear differently and just the way everyone has their favorite speaker that sounds good to them, the same just about has to apply to sub-woofers also?

jmierzur

Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
Oh, I never said it was a bad subwoofer. But I think it is kind of obvious that if you were to purchase a similar priced SVS it would be pretty much out-muscled...

If I ever hear one, i will definetely let yall know...

I wanna hear REL and Sunfire...

I need to hear the Def Tech Supercubes too...

I have heard the Velo DD series....FINE subwoofers there for their size...

Obvious? Who said the Sunfire would be out-muscled? They pack quite a wallop. Period. Two minutes on the web found them for $1165 each. Comparable to others.

PolkThug

You guys are crazy. Bose blows them all away!

VR3

Im gonna agree with Polkthug on this one....

Dual Bose Modules can smoke SVS and Sunfire

PolkThug

Yep! Like my customers always tell me "Bose is the best!"

dkg999

I stand corrected and bow to the higher wisdom of Polkthug! Do we need a group hug?

Mjr7531

Absolutely!
It'd make us all feel so much better!
Happy Holidays guys, remember, its that time of the year to be happy!
Or stressed.
Big dif.
Now, not to be off topic, I beleive its the ear of the beholder.

Toxis

My only thing is, I get a discount on Sunfire. Plus, why buy something when I can't tell my customers I personally own one and love it? "Oh, my sub? Well... you can't find it in any store, that's why i bought it." So for the price I pay for a Sunfire, I could get an SVS with comparable sound/output but again... why?

bvette94

I loved the pickle barrel comment.




ps i am new to the cult also.