Help to build my first system....

Systems
Systems Posts: 14,873
edited January 2005 in Car Audio & Electronics
hey after read some reviews and the prices of some brands i write an small conf
can someone tellme if its ok?


Rear of the Car
Polk Audio MOMO Carbon MMC690 $250
1 - 12" DONT KNOW WICH BRAND $100-300


Doors
MMC650 $200


Front of the Car (dont know how to call that place... but its at the side of the feets :D)
db650 $120


need advices abt this drivers and please fix if im doing something wrong... i need to an nice SubWoofer (12").

the car is an Alfa ROmeo 145.

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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited December 2004
    First off I would say dump the rear speakers. The best soundstage and SQ will always be achieved with front speakers only.

    2nd, I would recommend going with these Polk MMC6500. They cost more than the 650 but they also sound better and come with a better tweeter and crossover.

    I assume youre talking about the kick panels (the things by your feet). If youre wanting to put speakers in there you may want to go with the MMC5250 and maybe use something along the lines of Q Logic custom kick panels.

    Personally, I would say just stick em in the doors if you could. It would be a lot easier to install and the kick panels wouldnt be cutting down on your legroom.

    As far as subs go, stick with Polk and go with the MM2124. These arent mean for major loudness but rather SQ and they sound great. You can pick em up at Tweeter or at Sound Domain.com for about 100 bones.
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited December 2004
    well, so will be better to use the
    MMC6500 in the Front Door.
    MMC5250 in the kick Panels.
    MM2124 as subwoofer.

    and nothing more... im right?

    sorry what im asking but my english is not so good, and maybe i dont understand very well what to do :)


    btw with that stuff you think that are enough to get an kick **** sound?


    what abt Amplifiers Stages ?



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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited December 2004
    MMC6500 in the doors and thats it.

    You dont need 2 different sets of speakers in the front.

    MMC6500 in the front doors and MM2124 for the sub and youre all set.

    Amp stages?
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
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  • SamSagaZ
    SamSagaZ Posts: 321
    edited December 2004
    yes.. amplifier... i was thinking abt buy an 1800W amp with 4 channels, so use 2 to move the subwoofer and the others 2 to move the front speakers...
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited December 2004
    For $600 you can have this Orion 8004 which would run 100x2 + 400x1 in 3 channel mode.

    For $450 or so you can have this Crossfire VR804 which would also do 100x2 + 400x1.

    And for $350 you can have this MTX Thunder684 putting out 85x2 + 340x1.

    It depends on how much youre wanting to spend.
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
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    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
  • SamSagaZ
    SamSagaZ Posts: 321
    edited December 2004
    ok, and u think that is ok to amp the front system and subwoofer with the same amp?
  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited December 2004
    thats fine if you dont want a subwoofer that has a big RMS figure
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • SamSagaZ
    SamSagaZ Posts: 321
    edited December 2004
    ill use an 12" subwoofer... hope i can use just one amp... ill see the specs of the woofer... thinking that the MM2124 is the best choice......

    i found an store in my country that have the whole line of Polk Audio....



    i read nice comments abt 13kv2 too
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited December 2004
    All of the amps I listed will easily put run in 3 channel mode all day long and both the Crossfire and Orion will put out over 100 rms to each front and over 400 rms to the sub. Thats pretty substantial.
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
  • SamSagaZ
    SamSagaZ Posts: 321
    edited December 2004
    ok... will be hard to get these brand here.... but maybe ill buy it from us.
  • SamSagaZ
    SamSagaZ Posts: 321
    edited December 2004
    any others brand than Orion 8004 and Crossfire VR804 ? i mean any better amp?

    ot its the best that will be fit to my system?

    i already ordered MMC6500 and MM2124 as subwoofer.


    i found the CrossFire at U$S350 and the ORION 8004 at $340.

  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited December 2004
    theres better amps but not in the $350 price range
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • SamSagaZ
    SamSagaZ Posts: 321
    edited December 2004
    and another a little better but not so much expensive?
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited December 2004
    Quit worrying about if there is a better amp. Unless youre going to buy a $3000 Brax or Tru Tech, there will always be a better amp.

    If youre in the league of MTX, Crossfire and Orion then no matter which you get its going to be a great amp. Its like worrying about which is better between Porsche, BMW, Benz or Aston. Theyre all great cars. Some might be better than other in some areas but overall theyre all exceptional. Same with this league of amps.

    Both the Crossfire and Orion are awesome amps and either one will be just right.
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
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    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited December 2004
    im thinking about going with TruTech instead of USAmps...
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • SamSagaZ
    SamSagaZ Posts: 321
    edited December 2004
    thanks guys.. ill buy the orion......
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited January 2005
    Originally posted by exalted512
    im thinking about going with TruTech instead of USAmps...
    -Cody

    That would be cool. Id take the Tru over the US Amps myself if I could ever afford it.

    Right now my ultimate goal for a system thats still realistic is probably MB Quart Premiums, Xtant amps and something along the lines of a Diamond Audio TDX or CM6 sub. Hell I doubt if I could ever afford that! LOL
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
  • SamSagaZ
    SamSagaZ Posts: 321
    edited January 2005
    latest question before buy the subwoofer...

    wich i need to buy the MM2124 or MM2124DVC ?
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited January 2005
    If youre going to be using the Orion 8004 and bridging the rear channels, youll need to get the MM2124 single voice coil.

    You would only need a dual voice coil (DVC) if you were running a mono class D amp capable of 2 ohm mono operation which in this case youre not.
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
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    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
  • SamSagaZ
    SamSagaZ Posts: 321
    edited January 2005
  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited January 2005
    Originally posted by MacLeod
    That would be cool. Id take the Tru over the US Amps myself if I could ever afford it.

    Right now my ultimate goal for a system thats still realistic is probably MB Quart Premiums, Xtant amps and something along the lines of a Diamond Audio TDX or CM6 sub. Hell I doubt if I could ever afford that! LOL
    well i was really thinking about it and i was looking at the sledge hammer...but it wont fit in my truck where ill be putting the amps, i might put it under my back seat or something. i was thinking since im sticking with sealed, when i have that much power the box will be a lot smaller, so i can put the amps in the center of the box with a front(that has hinges to come down) so they cant be seen, but no back for cooling and have them on piece of wood that comes out like a drawer when i opened the front.
    ahhh...the possibilities
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • SamSagaZ
    SamSagaZ Posts: 321
    edited January 2005
    someone know someone from polk that can talk with me abt resell polk speakers / amps in my country?
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited January 2005
    That would be cool. Ive always loved showing off amps. I dont like speakers or wires to be seen at all but Ive always like displaying my amps. Thats also one of the reasons I picked Crossfire over MTX cause they are a little better looking I think. I really like Xtants looks so Ill be only too happy to display them (assuming I ever come up with the $1100 :( )

    As far as selling Polk, if nobody reponds to you on here, just call Polk directly and tell them what youre wanting. Theyll be able to direct you to the right person Im sure.
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
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    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
  • SamSagaZ
    SamSagaZ Posts: 321
    edited January 2005
    my main problem abt calling polk is my english :)

    my english sux, i already email polk like 5 times and noone answer me... ill try again...
  • SamSagaZ
    SamSagaZ Posts: 321
    edited January 2005
    another question.... if i buy 2 subwoofers instead one, ill just get better SPL?

    i can move the 2 with the same AMP (orion) ?
  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited January 2005
    yes, it will get louder. for your second question, if that orion does around 800x1@ 2 ohms, then yes, it will run dual 4 ohm subs
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited January 2005
    Well if you want to run 2 subs then that amp will run 400x2 bridged but then youll have to get a seperate amp for your components.
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D