Kind Of Amp\amps Should I Use?!?!?!?!?!?!

halvard
halvard Posts: 16
edited December 2004 in Car Audio & Electronics
Hi..
i have just bought 2x MM2104 subs and 2x MMC690 6*9 speak.
And i have a amp problem, cus i hear so much crap. Not one of the shops i have spoken to have said or recommended the same amp, i am so confused. I just want to know which amp\amps are the best for the job?? i am concidering one monoblock mtx thunder801D for the subs, and a mtx thunder342 for the speakers..

my email is: frholter@broadpark.com

do not think about budget.. just tell me which top 3-4 amps you would use?

thanx all..
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  • AustinKP
    AustinKP Posts: 861
    edited December 2004
    First, there is no need to double-post. One thread is all you need. You already got some excellent recommendations (zapco, xtant, brax, helix, usamps) so I don't understand why you're asking the exact same question again...

    Second, let's be realistic here. If money truly was no object, you would not have gotten Polk. True, I feel that Polk is the best IN THEIR PRICE RANGE, but there is admittedly much better out there, at a cost.

    If money was no object, you'd have bought Focal Utopias or Rainbow comps, not some Polk 6x9's. The reason you're getting such wildly varying amp recommendations is because you're not setting a price limit. There is no one "best" speaker or amp once you get in the high-end range. It is completely based on personal listening preferences and quality of install. Unless you're willing to throw down $10k on the "best" amps out there, for the love of pete, SET A PRICE RANGE!
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited December 2004
    so mac...whos pete?
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
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  • halvard
    halvard Posts: 16
    edited December 2004
    okay.. let's say that my price range is about 500$
    i have been looking at the mtx thunder801mono amp for the subs and the mtx thunder342 for the speakers.. what do you think??

    thank you
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by exalted512
    so mac...whos pete?

    rofl.....man, this place is good for me........oh, my sides hurt.......lol
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    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by exalted512
    so mac...whos pete?

    Umm...that wasnt me. That was Austin.

    Hal - The 801 is way too much amp for those subs. That thing puts out neary over 900 watts which would shred those Momos. Get the 421 instead. It will put an easy 250 clean watts all day long to those subs which is where they ought to be.

    If youre wanting to spend $500 on each amp then go with Xtant. The 4.4 and 6.1. Both are $550 each and the best you can get.
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    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by MacLeod
    Umm...that wasnt me. That was Austin.
    i knew that...:cool:
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited December 2004
    yeah, that's why it was funny......he was anticipating your asking who pete is.....lol

    like I said,.....this place is good for a good laugh......:p
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    VR3 Posts: 28,529
    edited December 2004
    Crackheads, every last one of ya.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    Crackheads, every last one of ya.
    youre one to talk!;)
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  • AustinKP
    AustinKP Posts: 861
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by MacLeod
    That thing puts out neary over 900 watts which would shred those Momos.
    First, you meant "nearly over" instead of "neary over", right? Second, which one is it? Is it nearly 900 or over 900? Wouldn't those two cancel each other out to make it exactly 900? Man, I'm tired and I have a huge headache.

    I've been working on making my fiberglass door pods the past week and have been breathing too many resin and paint fumes! Tonight it really got to me and gave me a huge headache. However, I'm done with one pod and only have to sand and paint the other one. The end IS IN SIGHT! I'm so excited because they look so dang good. And this is my first EVER attempt at fiberglass, so I'm especially proud. I'll put up pics once I'm finished tomorrow.

    -Austin
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    Joelsbass Posts: 637
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    Crackheads, every last one of ya.

    ...... you say that like it's a bad thing.?.?.?

    starwars.gif
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited December 2004
    Congratulaionts, AustinKP! I can't wait to see the pics. How do you go about doing fiberglass? I have no clue how it's done, but it interests me; I might wanna try it one day.....
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  • halvard
    halvard Posts: 16
    edited December 2004
    macleod...
    but it sais that is putting out 400wx1 in 4ohm my subs are 4ohms
    not 2ohms.. yes its 800wx1 but it is in 2ohm

    i am confused again. hehe..
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    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by AustinKP
    I've been working on making my fiberglass door pods the past week and have been breathing too many resin and paint fumes! Tonight it really got to me and gave me a huge headache.

    Respirators are only like $20.
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    Thom Posts: 723
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by halvard
    macleod...
    but it sais that is putting out 400wx1 in 4ohm my subs are 4ohms
    not 2ohms.. yes its 800wx1 but it is in 2ohm

    i am confused again. hehe..

    Two 4 ohm woofers wired in parallel will give you a 2 ohm load.
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  • halvard
    halvard Posts: 16
    edited December 2004
    hehe.. i may be stupid now. but thanx thom i didn't know that.. thanx.
    but what would the watt be on each sub?? if the amp gives 800Wx1 on 2ohm.?? 400 each ??
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    AustinKP Posts: 861
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by halvard
    hehe.. i may be stupid now. but thanx thom i didn't know that.. thanx.
    but what would the watt be on each sub?? if the amp gives 800Wx1 on 2ohm.?? 400 each ??
    Exactly. The two subs get the power distributed evenly, so they'll have 400 each.

    Thom - I know, but that was $20 I didn't want to spend :) I hate spending money that I don't have to... If I ever did something like this long-term, I'd definitely get one though. Plus a full-body suit or something. That fiberglass dust when you're sanding really itches. Sure is fun though :D
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited December 2004
    thats why you wear long sleeves and gloves...if i can find the funds, ill be fiberglassing the bottom of my sub box as well as making the a-pillars. i need a loan...lol
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    AustinKP Posts: 861
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by exalted512
    thats why you wear long sleeves and gloves...if i can find the funds, ill be fiberglassing the bottom of my sub box as well as making the a-pillars. i need a loan...lol
    -Cody
    I did. The dust still finds its way into your sleeves somehow. Makes my wrists itch :( However, fiberglassing isn't extremely expensive. My total money going into this is under $30, including the paint. Granted, I did get the glass mat from school for free since this is my "final project" for one of my classes. Also, my wife loves to sew, and just happened to have some stretchy fleece laying around. Plus, my father-in-law is a finish carpenter so his garage is *full* of scrap wood, so my MDF rings were also free. :) My main costs were:

    1 qt resin: ~$15 (I think I got ripped here, but it was the only place close by where I could find it.)
    1 tube Bondo: $7
    5 paintbrushes: $1.50
    1 can aerosol Rhino Liner: $8

    Overall, not too bad I think.

    -Austin
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited December 2004
    i dont think you understand how poor i am:)
    my bank account currently reads $26.29...
    that and i might need more wood...a sheet of MDF=$20
    money left=$6.29
    lol
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited December 2004
    That's just sad, man.......lol.....:p
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited December 2004
    btw, for the advice ive given you--thatll be $30 please
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited December 2004
    well, uhh, ya know; for a guy in college, dilligently studying so he can have a good future, it's understandable he would be in such a financial situation. Umm,...uhh,.....quite all right...uhhh....

    lol........I DID say thanks!!!!:D
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  • AustinKP
    AustinKP Posts: 861
    edited December 2004
    I don't think my wife would have let me spend any money on it either if it wasn't for my "final project" in one of my classes. :)
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited December 2004
    Hal - MTX amps are severly underrated. If they claim 100 watts you can expect nearly 200! So if theyre claiming 400x2 then its a safe bet youre actually getting somewhere in the neighborhood of 475+.

    Now the MM2104 are 300 watt subs. The 2124 is the 400 watt model. The 2124 would be a better match for the 801. The 2104 are not up to it tho.

    Austin - Get a life. Quit being the typo police! :p
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited December 2004
    ...he meant underrated.......
    George Grand wrote: »
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited December 2004
    goddammit! you guys are killing me!
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by MacLeod
    i love my brothers of the polk forum
    we know mac, we know...
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited December 2004
    where did he say that?
    George Grand wrote: »
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    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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  • AustinKP
    AustinKP Posts: 861
    edited December 2004
    his second-to-last post was edited...he probably took it out of that one after all we do to him :D
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