Revinyl job and other mods...

VR3
VR3 Posts: 28,774
edited December 2004 in Speakers
As many of your know, I let my Mom use my spare speakers, the powerhouse Pioneers ;) in the den - and...

When I got them, they were beat up to hell, so my Dad and I revinyled him.

When I say my Dad and I, I mean my Dad because he 'took over' and did it himself.

Well his method sucked. Period!

So, I am stripped the vinyl off of one just to see how easy it would be...

So, I have some questions. Do I need to cut individual panels of vinyl wrap, apply - then trim, for each piece? And just put a straight edge on the edge of the speaker to guide the razor?

Thanks...

I also plan to put some foam gasket material around the drivers and ports...

Here are some pics...
- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited December 2004
    Here is the crossover...can you call it that?
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited December 2004
    I don't know that I'd dump much more time or money into those things.

    Looks like they could use some better damping internally off hand. How wide is the vinyl? I'd wrap the front, sides and top - and spray the back / bottom black.

    Cheers,
    Russ
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited December 2004
    I also plan to remake the grills because my Dad made those as well, and like the vinyl job - it sucks...

    So, any tips on making a grill?
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by RuSsMaN
    I don't know that I'd dump much more time or money into those things.

    Looks like they could use some better damping internally off hand. How wide is the vinyl? I'd wrap the front, sides and top - and spray the back / bottom black.

    Cheers,
    Russ

    One sheet can wrap both speakers, sides, front, top...

    I plan to spray paint the bottom, I spray painted the back last time...

    Damping is a good idea...

    Do you have some of that Dacron?

    I agree with you, They arnt worth much more time or money. I just wanted to get them presentable, and worthy of a spot in the den.

    The vinyl isnt much, and I plan to order the foam material for my line array...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited December 2004
    I'm not sending you any more Dacron, you know what it is, hit the local fabric shop and pick some up. It costs more to ship the stuff, than for you to just go buy it.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited December 2004
    Alright, I was more so asking if you would sell some and include it in that big ol box...hehe

    Either way...

    I will find some..

    muahahahhaha
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • izafar
    izafar Posts: 819
    edited December 2004
    Sid,

    Partsexpress has a pretty good instructions article on how to apply Vinyl/Vaneer on speakers. Just search for spome vaneers and you should get a link to that article.
    -izafar

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited December 2004
    Thanks Iza! I will definetely take a look and see what PE has on their site...

    Today, I tired my hand at making a grill frame.

    And yes Russ...

    I started your speakers! ;) I got the sides and back on one - should be done in 2-3 days.

    They turned out VERY good, I'm surprised.. (the grills)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited December 2004
    Are those K-Mart shoes??
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited December 2004
    And if they are?

    Do you have a problem with K-Mart shoes?

    HUH HUH?

    These are my work shoes man...

    Steel toe, water proof, the works...

    My other shoes are NOT K-Mart shoes ;)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited December 2004
    I thought they were. :D
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited December 2004
    *blank stare*

    You have WAY to much time on your hands (which is obviously spent at KMart) ;)

    I actually think these came from Walmart...

    is there a difference?
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited December 2004
    They turned out freakin good man...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • gatemplin
    gatemplin Posts: 1,595
    edited December 2004
    The grills turned out well Sid. I dont know why you bother with those old things but to each his own.
    Graham
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited December 2004
    thanks

    My mom is using them in the 35x15 den...(I want her to use good looking stuff, not some beat up speakers, ya know?)

    and they are my spare speakers that I haul around to parties, a DJ system if you will.

    Plays loud, takes abuse...perfect. I let my friends borrow them, etc...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited December 2004
    Looks good! Now you need to try some veneer work. Our local Lowes has unfinished stuff in a roll that you iron on. Real wood. I wonder if you can use a router to cut edges after you put veneer on wood? I've heard you can cut it with a sharp knife.
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited December 2004
    Veneer is WAY** to expensive for these speakers... LOL

    Maybe a different project, another day...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • gatemplin
    gatemplin Posts: 1,595
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by madmax
    Looks good! Now you need to try some veneer work. Our local Lowes has unfinished stuff in a roll that you iron on. Real wood. I wonder if you can use a router to cut edges after you put veneer on wood? I've heard you can cut it with a sharp knife.
    madmax

    Real wood veneer is nice. You can use a flush trim router bit which works great if it is really sharp. You can also flip the speaker over and cut off the excess with a knife but this is harder to do than using the router.
    Graham
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited December 2004
    man, Sid; those are some HUGE speakers!!! What's the size of the woofers in those things?! How low can that thing dig?! Look pretty cool to me.....

    The grills did turn out pretty nice......good luck on the re-vinyling....`
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited December 2004
    They use a 12"..

    Might hit 40-45hz strong...

    They can play continuous volumes of 105+db, easy...

    They are 95db or so nominal..

    Just insanely loud speakers...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited December 2004
    Here is what they USE to look like...with the bad grill remake and vinyl job...

    It is really hard to tell by that picture...

    But like there are no distinct edges of the speaker, the vinyl wrap didnt 'cut' sharp enough...

    and the vinyl wrap over-laps in several places...I dunno, its just a terrible job
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited December 2004
    those...huge....haahaa
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited December 2004
    Yeah, they are actually pretty smalll..

    12" deep, 15" wide, 36" tall...

    Cheap cabinets, 1/2" thick particleboard...

    The inside of the cabinet wasnt even sealed. I had to run caulk all throughout the cabinet...

    I am going to get some velcro to attach the grills this time. Those grill guides/pegs I got last time was a freakin joke...

    But these grill frames I made this time are ALOT better than the ones they had before...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited December 2004
    12" deep, 15" wide, 36" tall...

    Oh; they looked bigger in the picture. You know what they say, everyone gains 10 pounds on TV/pictures.....LOL
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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    Pioneer Elite VSX-52, Parasound HCA-1000A
    Klipsch RF-82ii, RC-62ii, RS-42ii, RW-10d
    Epson 8700UB
    In Storage
    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
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