Power Conditioners

dkg999
dkg999 Posts: 5,647
I am currently using a single ACE-515 surge suppresor/conditioner, and with the additional components I have added, I need to add more outlets! I am currently considering the Panamax 5100, the Tripplite LCR2400, or another ACE-515 (plenty for sale on eBay!). Does anyone have any feedback on the Panamax and Tripplite. I'm really concerned with the ability to provide unrestricted current for amplifiers and receivers (currently have 5 amplifiers/1 receiver to power). Is the ACE-515 just as good? This is for my system at my apt. in IL, so noise filtration is also a concern, as the electrical system is pretty noisey!

Please don't suggest Monster products! Their power conditioners may be good, but I have real problems with their marketing tactics at the retailer level, and it is my personal choice not to buy their products.
DKG999
HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
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  • PETERNG
    PETERNG Posts: 918
    edited November 2004

    Please don't suggest Monster products! Their power conditioners may be good, but I have real problems with their marketing tactics at the retailer level, and it is my personal choice not to buy their products. [/B]

    What kind of Bs is this???:confused:
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited November 2004
    Panamax and Tripplite make good products. If the ACE is working for you, why not just get another? Go with what you know.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • BlueMDPicker
    BlueMDPicker Posts: 7,569
    edited November 2004
    ANTHEM Pre-2L (Pre-Amp RIP)

    Alas, poor 2L, we knew ye well.
    :(
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited November 2004
    Peterng - have you read the retailer agreements that a Best Buy, Circuit City, etc. have to abide by to have Monster products? Are you aware of what Monster has done to some of the buyers and supply chain managers of major retail chains when they didn't agree to Monster's demands? In your opinion what they do may be all fair, and they certainly work hard to stay on the gray side of the legal line. I have a choice, and I don't agree, so I don't support their tactics with my money. You need to make your own choice. Unlike others, I don't feel a need to swing anybody to my point of view. I offered the questions above solely as reasons, based on professionally gained knowledge, why I made the choice I did.

    Thanks for the other responses, I like the ACE, and they are very reasonable on the used market. I may try the Panamax or Tripplite as I have never used any of their products.
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
  • PETERNG
    PETERNG Posts: 918
    edited November 2004
    Originally posted by dkg999
    Peterng - have you read the retailer agreements that a Best Buy, Circuit City, etc. have to abide by to have Monster products? Are you aware of what Monster has done to some of the buyers and supply chain managers of major retail chains when they didn't agree to Monster's demands? In your opinion what they do may be all fair, and they certainly work hard to stay on the gray side of the legal line. I have a choice, and I don't agree, so I don't support their tactics with my money. You need to make your own choice. Unlike others, I don't feel a need to swing anybody to my point of view. I offered the questions above solely as reasons, based on professionally gained knowledge, why I made the choice I did.


    I really don't give **** about what choice you made, that's is entirely up to you. Ask a fair question, then make your choice, otherwise don't ask. I don't need to read crap from MC either, there are certainly many people do like and happy with their products do not deserve a slap in the face from you. So stop the opinion-ized bs...and move on...

    :confused:
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited November 2004
    Peterng - I thought I asked a good question on opinions on power conditioners, stated that I was excluding Monster from my alternatives, and I didn't ask anyone else to buy into my reasons or choice to exclude them. You responded questioning my reasons, and I briefly expanded on my reasoning, again stating that I had no interest in convincing or swaying others to make the same choice. I'm not sure what your problems are, but I am guessing the right expertise to solve them is not resident on this forum. If you care to expand on your ranting in a rational way, maybe someone can help you. Take care and I hope you enjoy your choices in products as much as I enjoy mine.
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited November 2004
    I don't recommend monster cables to anyone now, because of this nonsense (that has been going on for quite some time):

    http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?qt=adv&pno=&qs=monster+cable+products&propno=&propnameop=&propname=&pop=&pn=&pop2=&pn2=&cop=&cn=
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited November 2004
    Polkthug - yes, I agree, they have taken trademark and service mark protection to the extreme degree. I am partly responsible for protecting the trade marks and service marks of my companies products and services, and although you have to be vigilant and aggressive, we have some really good attorney's in this area and they don't recommend being as aggressive as MC is. In a brief review of the companies they have went after, it really seems as if there is some bias to only picking on companies without the capacity to really fight back.

    Everyone has a choice as to which companies to purchase from, and unless you are on a mission to convince others your position is correct, I just don't see the need to defend my choices or to be spoken to in the manner a previous poster in this thread did.
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
  • opus
    opus Posts: 1,252
    edited November 2004
    brutal smack dkg999. Subtle and smart. That's the way to do it.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited November 2004
    dkg --
    I currently use a TrippLite Isobar power conditioner. Works great and costs a fraction of what some other power conditioners cost. I am looking to upgrade to another Tripplite product. The one you mentioned in your initial thread seems pretty cool. In addition to isolated filtering and surge protection, it has automatic voltage regulation. Be careful though, because since it has a transformer, it will have a hum to it.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited November 2004
    I decided to give the Tripplite LCR-2400 a try! It can't have anymore hum due to the transformer in it than my electrical circuits in my apt. building have! They upgraded almost everything in the 1950's era building my apt is in, except the electrical. The green transformer boxes outside hum loudly all the time! I'll let everyone know what my impression is once I get it installed. FYI - there is a wide variety of prices on the LCR-2400 on the internet. I managed to get it for $260 including shipping, while some websites wanted up to $335 plus shipping. One nice feature of the LCR-2400 is that it will manage the full load of a 20 amp circuit, which a lot of the power conditioners I looked at won't!
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited November 2004
    I got my LCR-2400, and it seems to work very well. I plugged an window air conditioner into the same circuit I had the LCR-2400 running on, and it did an amazing job of managing the voltage fluctuation when the AC kicked in, and of also eliminating the noise in the circut. Much better than the ACE-515. I ordered it from www.techonweb.com, they had one of the lowest prices, it was delivered in 3 days. So far so good!
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC