Landry_p2000 wire pic

PolkThug
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edited November 2004 in Basic Hookup/Wiring Questions
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  • landry_p2000
    landry_p2000 Posts: 1,313
    edited November 2004
    That's a damn good idea! I was wondering how I was going to get it under the wall. Make a hole and the base board will cover the hole when you put the base board back. Duh? Thanks alot. You got me crystal clear on how to go about doing this wire run.
    I may do this tonight. My old lady is gonna freak out about me removing the base boards on the new house, but oh well!
    Main Set-up: 55" 120 hz Samsung LN55B650, Onkyo TX-SR806, Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva XPA-2, PS3 Slim, Sony BDP-S560, Apple TV (160g), Panamax M5300-PM, Polk Audio CSi5, RTi10's, FXi3's, RTi4's, and SVS PB12 Plus

    Bedroom: Panasonic 50" S2 Plasma and Panasonic BD65 blu-ray player, Onkyo TX-SR707, Emotiva XPA-3, Emotiva UPA-2, KEF IQ7's, IQc, IQ8Ds, and SVS PB10-ISD
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  • gatemplin
    gatemplin Posts: 1,595
    edited November 2004
    You might want to prepare a comfy spot on the couch before you start rippin' the base boards off.:D
    Graham
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,647
    edited November 2004
    :D:D:D
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited November 2004
    You can try the old "weren't they having some big sale at the mall" trick to get her out of the house for a while! This is only a good idea if she has her own job and budget ..... trust me on this!
    DKG999
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  • landry_p2000
    landry_p2000 Posts: 1,313
    edited November 2004
    The mall! Excellent idea. If I hurry up, and give the kids a little bribe, I could get the baseboards back on before she comes back!It's a wrap. I even thought about actually given up the credit card for.........Aw, hell naw! She would max it out if I let her. I can just give her a "C-note" or two. This may go down 2nite! Thanks guys.:D
    Main Set-up: 55" 120 hz Samsung LN55B650, Onkyo TX-SR806, Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva XPA-2, PS3 Slim, Sony BDP-S560, Apple TV (160g), Panamax M5300-PM, Polk Audio CSi5, RTi10's, FXi3's, RTi4's, and SVS PB12 Plus

    Bedroom: Panasonic 50" S2 Plasma and Panasonic BD65 blu-ray player, Onkyo TX-SR707, Emotiva XPA-3, Emotiva UPA-2, KEF IQ7's, IQc, IQ8Ds, and SVS PB10-ISD
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  • landry_p2000
    landry_p2000 Posts: 1,313
    edited November 2004
    What tool should I use to remove the trim. Flathead screw driver? Crowbar? What? I am a "green horn" when it come to carpenter ****. Any suggestions?:confused::confused::confused:
    Main Set-up: 55" 120 hz Samsung LN55B650, Onkyo TX-SR806, Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva XPA-2, PS3 Slim, Sony BDP-S560, Apple TV (160g), Panamax M5300-PM, Polk Audio CSi5, RTi10's, FXi3's, RTi4's, and SVS PB12 Plus

    Bedroom: Panasonic 50" S2 Plasma and Panasonic BD65 blu-ray player, Onkyo TX-SR707, Emotiva XPA-3, Emotiva UPA-2, KEF IQ7's, IQc, IQ8Ds, and SVS PB10-ISD
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  • okiepolkie
    okiepolkie Posts: 2,258
    edited November 2004
    A flat crow/prybar would be good. That is what I used to take quarteround off of my baseboards. You will probably not be able to get enough leverage with a flat head screwdriver and you run more of chance of denting the wood.
    Tschüss
    Zach
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  • gatemplin
    gatemplin Posts: 1,595
    edited November 2004
    Yes a flat crow bar will work, definitely not a screwdriver. It will push right through the drywall. Try to do as much of the work with you fingers as you can, and dont pry against the drywall if you can help it. You may have to replace some of the baseboards.
    Graham
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited November 2004
    Stanley makes the "Wonderbar". Very wide, flat pry bar. Try to find the nails.

    On the entry hole to the wall... come up as far as you can and yet still have the vaseboard cover the hole or you'll go into the 2x4 at the base of the wall. You may have to drill at an upward angle to avoid/ get through it.
    More later,
    Tour...
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  • landry_p2000
    landry_p2000 Posts: 1,313
    edited November 2004
    Thanks. I didn't get to start on it last night. Still unpacking boxes and setting things in place. Tonight is Home Depot night. I need to get that "Wonderbar" tonight. :cool:
    Main Set-up: 55" 120 hz Samsung LN55B650, Onkyo TX-SR806, Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva XPA-2, PS3 Slim, Sony BDP-S560, Apple TV (160g), Panamax M5300-PM, Polk Audio CSi5, RTi10's, FXi3's, RTi4's, and SVS PB12 Plus

    Bedroom: Panasonic 50" S2 Plasma and Panasonic BD65 blu-ray player, Onkyo TX-SR707, Emotiva XPA-3, Emotiva UPA-2, KEF IQ7's, IQc, IQ8Ds, and SVS PB10-ISD
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited November 2004
    Remember to put the upper hole where the speaker wire terminals will rest against the wall, or you'll end up with wire pinched between the speaker and the sheetrock.
    Never Forget
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  • sowen010599
    sowen010599 Posts: 343
    edited November 2004
    When I ran mine, a friend of mine, an HVAC company owner, said to pack the holes with plumbers putty. It will prevent any kind of draft from inside the walls, and most importantly, prevent condensation in the walls themselves. And the reason for using the putty is it's easily removable later unlike spackle.
    Go BIG or go home!
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  • landry_p2000
    landry_p2000 Posts: 1,313
    edited November 2004
    Thanks. I'll pick up the putty at Home Depot 2nite as well. Do I need to run the wire under the edge of the sheet rock before I re-install the baseboards?:confused:
    Main Set-up: 55" 120 hz Samsung LN55B650, Onkyo TX-SR806, Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva XPA-2, PS3 Slim, Sony BDP-S560, Apple TV (160g), Panamax M5300-PM, Polk Audio CSi5, RTi10's, FXi3's, RTi4's, and SVS PB12 Plus

    Bedroom: Panasonic 50" S2 Plasma and Panasonic BD65 blu-ray player, Onkyo TX-SR707, Emotiva XPA-3, Emotiva UPA-2, KEF IQ7's, IQc, IQ8Ds, and SVS PB10-ISD
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  • gregit
    gregit Posts: 284
    edited November 2004
    tip...take a razor knife and slice through the paint/caulk between the top of the baseboard and the wall. Makes for a cleaner removal.
    Greg

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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited November 2004
    :)
    More later,
    Tour...
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    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
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  • gatemplin
    gatemplin Posts: 1,595
    edited November 2004
    Nice tip.. gregure...

    :D Wrong dude Bruce. But that is a good tip.
    Graham
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited November 2004
    Aw, ****... all those "greg...'s" look alike... :D
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,741
    edited November 2004
    If you live in a fairly new house... and you have 8 foot ceilings

    1) Sheatrock does not cover floor to ceiling, therefore it is set flush to the ceiling and leaves a 1 or so inch gap between the sheatrock and the floor...

    The baseboard covers this up

    2) Baseboard is usually attached by finish-nailers to resist cracking (easy to pull off)

    3) If your house has a strip of caulk running across the baseboard, make sure you take a razor and cut through so you don't pull up a portion of the paint/wallpaper --- (Eh, I see this has already been mentioned, sorry)

    This is only on fairly new houses :)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • gregit
    gregit Posts: 284
    edited November 2004
    Originally posted by Tour2ma
    Aw, ****... all those "greg...'s" look alike... :D


    then that gregure must be one handsome dude........:D
    Greg

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  • landry_p2000
    landry_p2000 Posts: 1,313
    edited November 2004
    Thanks guys. That does make sense. If I pull the paint off of the wall, It will be behind the sofa. But hell, who knows what the future holds? I may fill the holes in with caulk and paint the wall all over, or change the seating area around which will expose the effed up trim and paint.
    This is damn good advice. Once I am done I will report back to you guys. I plan on starting out tonight.
    Vr3MxStyler2k3, the house is only about 10 years old and had recently been remodeled before we moved in Saturday. Hopefully this should make for easy removal of the baseboards.:D
    I really appreciate all the input you guys give! This makes me feel more confident and willing to get this little job of hiding the wires done.
    Main Set-up: 55" 120 hz Samsung LN55B650, Onkyo TX-SR806, Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva XPA-2, PS3 Slim, Sony BDP-S560, Apple TV (160g), Panamax M5300-PM, Polk Audio CSi5, RTi10's, FXi3's, RTi4's, and SVS PB12 Plus

    Bedroom: Panasonic 50" S2 Plasma and Panasonic BD65 blu-ray player, Onkyo TX-SR707, Emotiva XPA-3, Emotiva UPA-2, KEF IQ7's, IQc, IQ8Ds, and SVS PB10-ISD
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,741
    edited November 2004
    Hopefully that will help you...

    Not sure if it is just down here that it is like that -- just how the sheatrock is cut here, atleast it is on the type we use...

    Good luck man, TAKE PICTURES! :D
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited November 2004
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    Not sure if it is just down here that it is like that
    :confused::confused::confused:
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,741
    edited November 2004
    Talking about the sheatrock...

    I dont know if they cut stuff like that the same everywhere...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited November 2004
    I get it now...

    You mean "sheetrock", and, of course, compared to my location you are "up there"...
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
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  • landry_p2000
    landry_p2000 Posts: 1,313
    edited November 2004
    The night I went to Home Depot to buy the things I needed to get the job done, my old lady wigged out on me about the walls! I usually get my projects done in a timely fashion, but we have had a lots of company since we moved into our 2500 sq. foot house. She was having a fit about me cutting the walls. I argued all night and for a little while in the store. Finally we came to an agreement. The guy in the electrical department heard her yelling at me, and suggested that we use a product called "Cordmate." I thought about using this once before. This came in two colors: white and eggshell. My den walls just happened to be eggshell. The walls in the den have a center trim all the way around them. I dirlled a hole through the top of the trim and out the bottom. Next I ran the speaker wire through the cordmate above and below the trim. The cordmate came with a peel and stick backing. Once I ran the wire through the parts I set the cordmate on the wall and all the wires were hid after I tucked them under the baseboards, and I like the way it looks. Actually, I got several compliments on the minor job. Thanks for the advice anyway guys. It sucks when a woman pulls rank on you, but in this case she got kiss and credit card in return for the time and money she saved me.

    Project Cost: $10.98 plus tax
    Project Time: One hour
    Project Results: ............................Priceless!

    :D:D:D
    Main Set-up: 55" 120 hz Samsung LN55B650, Onkyo TX-SR806, Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva XPA-2, PS3 Slim, Sony BDP-S560, Apple TV (160g), Panamax M5300-PM, Polk Audio CSi5, RTi10's, FXi3's, RTi4's, and SVS PB12 Plus

    Bedroom: Panasonic 50" S2 Plasma and Panasonic BD65 blu-ray player, Onkyo TX-SR707, Emotiva XPA-3, Emotiva UPA-2, KEF IQ7's, IQc, IQ8Ds, and SVS PB10-ISD
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited November 2004
    pics!!
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  • landry_p2000
    landry_p2000 Posts: 1,313
    edited November 2004
    PolkThug,

    Check out the new pics on the System Showcase, and tell me what you think.:D
    Main Set-up: 55" 120 hz Samsung LN55B650, Onkyo TX-SR806, Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva XPA-2, PS3 Slim, Sony BDP-S560, Apple TV (160g), Panamax M5300-PM, Polk Audio CSi5, RTi10's, FXi3's, RTi4's, and SVS PB12 Plus

    Bedroom: Panasonic 50" S2 Plasma and Panasonic BD65 blu-ray player, Onkyo TX-SR707, Emotiva XPA-3, Emotiva UPA-2, KEF IQ7's, IQc, IQ8Ds, and SVS PB10-ISD
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited November 2004
    Well now we know where Sid's old camera ended up... ;)

    Install looks very pro, landry, very clean indeed...

    Couple thoughts/ questions on your set-up:
    - Is the sub where it is because you found it gave you the smoothest room response there?
    - Why the 3's on the rear wall flanking the RTi4?

    Reason I ask about the sub is that it might thrive in the right hand corner while your right main should definitely benefit from coming out of the corner. If you make this move, you might also consider swapping the left main and your rack's position.

    On the 3's, it's certainly the norm to have side surrounds somewhat in front of you, but if they are working where they are... nevermind...
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited November 2004
    Originally posted by landry_p2000
    PolkThug,

    Check out the new pics on the System Showcase, and tell me what you think.:D

    Good job brother!
    Never Forget
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  • landry_p2000
    landry_p2000 Posts: 1,313
    edited November 2004
    Originally posted by Tour2ma
    Well now we know where Sid's old camera ended up... ;)

    Yeah I know that camera SUCKS!!!!!

    Couple thoughts/ questions on your set-up:
    - Is the sub where it is because you found it gave you the smoothest room response there?
    - Why the 3's on the rear wall flanking the RTi4?

    Thanks for the input. I'm still learning about this setting up and positioning of speakers. The sub should work better in the corner so I will move it tonight and the rack. The sound should be better from the position you suggested with the speakers in by the TV.
    As for the rears, they sound great! The reason I put them like that is because my wall on the left is way too far for side mounting. The FXi3s are set to Bipole for backwall mounting.
    I really appreciate you guys giving me your opinion and I value and info that you all share with me. That's what the forum is all about! Thanks for the compliments!

    :D
    Main Set-up: 55" 120 hz Samsung LN55B650, Onkyo TX-SR806, Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva XPA-2, PS3 Slim, Sony BDP-S560, Apple TV (160g), Panamax M5300-PM, Polk Audio CSi5, RTi10's, FXi3's, RTi4's, and SVS PB12 Plus

    Bedroom: Panasonic 50" S2 Plasma and Panasonic BD65 blu-ray player, Onkyo TX-SR707, Emotiva XPA-3, Emotiva UPA-2, KEF IQ7's, IQc, IQ8Ds, and SVS PB10-ISD
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