Something to apply to paper wizzers?

VR3
VR3 Posts: 28,774
edited October 2004 in Speakers
I was looking over my Pioneer full rangers I have, and since I am not going to be covering these drivers in anyway, I am concerned that my family members/friends may get curious and tear/bend/whatever to the wizzer. So I was wondering if there is some type of material/chemical of some sort to apply to the wizzer to 'stiffen' it more without changing the overal tonal quality...

Does anyone have a link or an idea of or if this exist?

Thanks...
- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited October 2004
    If you can't trust the people to not damage the goods, then don't let them anywhere around the things.......
    comment comment comment comment. bitchy.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited October 2004
    I know, and i agree...

    But it is very hard to control everyone around me, especially when I am not here...

    Just worried that my woofers will get destroyed!!!!

    Cant wait to get these things built!:cool:

    And I can't lock my mom out of my room, and in return I cant lock my sister or her friends out of my room...

    When my sister brings her friends over or her 'boyfriend' - she dosnt say, Hey, you wanna see my room?

    She says, Hey, do you wanna see my brothers room?

    Its actually quite ennerving
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited October 2004
    That's Unnerving....but close enough... ;)
    comment comment comment comment. bitchy.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited October 2004
    I dub thee, speak N' spell Brett!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited October 2004
    think of the things that have gone on in ur own bed man.....get a lock for ur door and dont look back
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  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
    edited October 2004
    People often apply a thin layer of dammar to the cone and whizzer to stiffen them but this will change the overall sound - usually for the better.

    People often apply a piece of foam insulation between the whizzer and the cone but this will change the overall sound - usually for the better.
    Make it Funky! :)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited October 2004
    Hmmm, is there ever an instance where applying this liquid has altered the sound for the worse? I dont think I want to take the chance of it sounding worse...

    However the foam (would cotton balls work?) can be removed if it sounds worse...

    Hmm, decisions...decisions
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
    edited October 2004
    Cotton balls would work too. This is called the $.98 and is very reversible. I've seen people do this tweak to very expensive drivers (>$1k/ pr) and they were very happy with the results. The damar (aka dammar) is not reversible. I've never heard of anybody not liking the results but most people will not apply this stuff to more expensive drivers. This stuff is a lacquer and should be thinned and applied gently and evenly, let dry and test results, repeat if necessary.
    Make it Funky! :)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited October 2004
    Thank you very much for the responses!

    I will think about it after I get these things working..
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
    edited October 2004
    No problem. I love single driver speakers and anybody willing to give them a shot deserves anything I have to offer. For etter sound you can also epoxy (or even just plumber's putty) the basket to the magnet and/or apply felt to the cone side of the basket. The idea of putting a bead rope caulk down the middle of each basket leg then covering with felt has always seemed to be a good idea to me with rear loaded horns.

    Check out that single driver website. There's plenty of info there. They will hopefully change formats soon too. I'm willing to bet that somebody else is using those same drivers in the same cab designs.
    Make it Funky! :)
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  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
    edited October 2004
    Why no grill. I would think that a 1" larger needlepoint frame from a local craft store would make for a great looking grill frame. It wouldn't have to always be in place, but would keep interested fingers away when need be.
    Make it Funky! :)
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited October 2004
    No matter what you apply, you will affect the sound quality in some way. Whether it's good or bad, it WILL change.
    Never kick a fresh **** on a hot day.

    Home Setup: Sony VPL-VW85 Projo, 92" Stewart Firehawk, Pioneer Elite SC-65, PS3, RTi12 fronts, CSi5, FXi6 rears, RTi6 surround backs, RTi4 height, MFW-15 Subwoofer.

    Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener.
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  • LittleCar_w/12s
    LittleCar_w/12s Posts: 568
    edited October 2004
    Ahh, the days of little paper whizzer cones... Damn, those were the best delco's I've ever heard in my car...(serious) At least a few of us still beleive!
    -Jerry
    ___________________________
    Total cost of materials: Going up...
    Time spent: Countless Hours...
    Cranking the system, having it quiet outside the car, and sound that takes the rear-view off inside: PRICELESS

    For some things in life, you pay others to do it... For a masterpeice, do it yourself.
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