Definition of sibilance please?

pixiedave
pixiedave Posts: 227
edited August 2004 in Speakers
hear it being slung about, but can not find a satisfactory definition. Any educators wanna take a stab?
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited August 2004
    Try a dictionary. Mine says, "Of, characterized by, or producing a hissing sound like that of (s) or (sh)...

    It's the annoying slithering snake sound heard after certain words that end in s, sh or z are spoken or sung. On some speakers, cables, and other gear, sibilance is more apparent that others. Definitely don't want to hear too much of it on your center channel.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2004
    Once you hear sibilance, you will always hear it if it is present. It is very fatiguing and generally makes listening unpleasant. It's like someone that has an annoying lisp or speech impediment of that kind.

    It's a very sharp, audible emphasis to words or sounds often beginning with "S" and "T". It is more often when the pronunciation is emphasized ON these letters or sounds, as opposed to being at the end of the word or sound.

    If I record this paragraph onto CD-R, you may experience sibilance :)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited August 2004
    If you want a GOOD idea of sibilance --

    Play Chevelle... that CD is loaded down with it man, or may just be me. But I definetely like the CD but cant stand to listen to it.
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  • Mjr7531
    Mjr7531 Posts: 856
    edited August 2004
    Hey guys, don't down Silibance too much, silibance is integral to understanding speech. You want silibance, but not too much, lack of silibance causes the speech to be undefined and muddy. With the correct amount of silibance, speech should be crisp. Generally in sound reinforcement, the first thing a person will do if the sound is unclear is up the silibance, it sounds like a bad idea, but it makes it much easier to understand, well assumung the person is miked correctly.
  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited August 2004
    Ssssssssss

    that's it

    :p
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited August 2004
    Sssssally sssssellsssss sssssea ssssshellsssss at the sssssea ssssshore
  • gmorris
    gmorris Posts: 1,179
    edited August 2004
    Originally posted by Mjr7531
    Hey guys, don't down Silibance too much, silibance is integral to understanding speech. You want silibance, but not too much, lack of silibance causes the speech to be undefined and muddy. With the correct amount of silibance, speech should be crisp. Generally in sound reinforcement, the first thing a person will do if the sound is unclear is up the silibance, it sounds like a bad idea, but it makes it much easier to understand, well assumung the person is miked correctly.


    To further the excellent point being made here, if you are hearing sibilance on your system, don't immediately think you have a "Bright" sounding system, or a problem with the equipment. If the recording is full of sibilance, as Trey mentioned about the Chevelle disc, you SHOULD hear the sibilance. If it is on the recording, you should hear it.
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  • pixiedave
    pixiedave Posts: 227
    edited August 2004
    ok thanks for replies guys.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2004
    Sorry, sibilance no, shimmer yes.

    In reference to audio, sibilance is in relation to having TOO MUCH...not the absense OF sibilance. Are we getting into semantics now?

    You have to realize that some recordings just suck.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,731
    edited August 2004
    I agree with Doro, you do not want sibilance period. Nasty stuff there. Though the use of careful gear selection there is no reason to hear any of it in your system regardless of how bad the recording.
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  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
    edited August 2004
    Think of a cymbal with a lisp.
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  • woodyjacobs
    woodyjacobs Posts: 706
    edited August 2004
    I think I caught that once in college. Penicillin took care of it.
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